Will not start

Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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  • 2000 MITSUBISHI GALANT
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 210,000 MILES
Got in car to leave. I cranked it up got my phone to pull MapQuest got where I was going in everything ready to go just as I went to put my hand on the lever to put it in reverse it shut off. I just knew my first thought timing belt. Oh no. I turned the key to start it it turns over turns over but will not crank the car. Bought new fuel pump when put it on the old one was still working. What could it be for my car not to start the engine so you can go? Please help.
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Thursday, June 20th, 2019 AT 12:31 PM

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Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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I have a code reader. I use it for when the check engine light comes on. And when it's time to have inspected to get my tag. Would you give me a code for this sort problem? Thank you
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Thursday, June 20th, 2019 AT 2:03 PM
Tiny
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Hi Linda, and welcome to 2CarPros.

To provide a specific code, I would first have to narrow it down to what is causing the crank no start. When you say timing belt, is there a concern that it was past due? This is an interference engine, so we need to be careful. When you tried to restart it, did it sound differently? For example, was the engine turning faster than normal?

I am going to provide a few links that discuss different things to check for when you have a crank / no start condition. Most times it is fuel or ignition related. However, I don't want you to crank the engine if you feel the timing belt may have broken. If it did break, it would have sounded differently when you tried to start it (faster, uneven sound). If that's the case, we need to check the belt before anything else is done and hope no damage was done.

If you feel it wasn't the belt, here are a few links that may help. Check through these and perform the basic tests and let me know the results.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

I know the fuel pump was replaced, but confirm pressure:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

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Again, if you feel confident it wasn't the belt, you have two ways of checking for spark and fuel. First, follow the links I attached above, or you can see if it starts for a couple seconds using starting fluid. If it does, then the problem is fuel related. If it doesn't then most times it is ignition spark related.

Do these things and let me know what you find. Also, let me know if it sounded differently when cranking it after the issue.

Take care,
Joe

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Thursday, June 20th, 2019 AT 9:13 PM
Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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I am so sorry. I have just been able to find out anything. The fuel pump is good when it's out of my car it works when they put back it's not. But they didn't connect fix anything and I had no clue what was going on I have now got fuel pump connected back now the code reader will not read anything. When I connect it it keeps saying saying waiting on car to respond or close to that. It's not linking to car and I know it should I've used it before. Could it possibly be anything else except the ECU thing? I apologize again for the long wait. Is there anything else it could possibly be? I can get the ECU for $150.00 and get $80.00 back I just would like to know before I spend that much. Thank you so much. Again I apologize.
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 12:11 PM
Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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So far I've got two fuses in wrong place #11 should be empty it has #12 I think in #11. I came in the house a second I know one is cigarette lighter I can't remember other one unless it just the blank one. I'm trying to do these things alone or what I can anyway. I have nobody to do anything. Oh, the timing belt it's not it it's not fast or or noise. I've had to jump timing before is why I said that. It's something where the computer isn't getting any information because my scanner tool won't connect to my car. I will get back to you as soon I can figure out something else. I'm going now to fix and check fuses. I couldn't get them out didn't know how the thing to do it with wasn't there. So then I had to Google how to get them out Thank you again you've helped me a lot.
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 6:34 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back, Linda:

First, you are very welcome. Okay, if the scanner won't connect, I need you to check fuse 11 in the fuse box under the dash. That fuse powers the DLC (where your scanner plugs into and the ECU). I attached three pictures to help identify it for you.

Next, pin number 16 on the DLC (data link connector) should always have 12v regardless of the key. Check that too. You can do it with a test light or volt meter.

I have no idea if you need these, but here are some links to help when checking electrical:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-car-fuse-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Also, I want you to check the fuel pump relay. Picture 4 shows its location. You can switch it with a different relay in the box with the same part number and try it, or here is a link that explains how to test one:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Let me know what you find.

Joe

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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 8:01 PM
Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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Under the not under beside the door? There is no #11 on mine in the book.
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 9:30 PM
Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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I was trying to send a picture of my book page with fuses but won't let me.
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 9:32 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

That is what my manual shows. Check and let me know what you find. The pictures I sent are right from Alldata, so they should be correct. However, anything is possible.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, June 23rd, 2019 AT 11:10 PM
Tiny
LINDA GOSS
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Can I check the EUC one? And would any of this your showing me around that? If that fuse is blown would the EUC be bad also?
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Monday, June 24th, 2019 AT 8:21 AM
Tiny
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Hi Linda:

Yes, if you remove the fuse both the fuse and circuit can be checked. A blown fuse at this point doesn't mean anything is wrong with the ECU. There are other things which could have caused it to blow. One of the earlier post I sent explains how to check fuses, for power to the fuse, and so on. If you run into trouble, let me know.

Joe
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Monday, June 24th, 2019 AT 5:39 PM

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