Why does my engine misfire?

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KEN L
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The fact that one side is having a problem I would lean toward the timing chain having a problem. Let's do a compression test to confirm the failure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-misfires-or-runs-rough

Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken
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JANET RAQUINIO
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Vehicle sometimes jerks a bit intermittently, engine light came on briefly. Pulled over checked oil, then went back home. Ran fine home, but still jerking. Need to make a long trip and worried. I'm thinking fuel filter? Any opinion? Where is the filter located?
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Hello, I'm Danny.

Well, first things first. you need to have the check engine light codes to be retrieved.If you don't have access to a code reader/scanner most auto parts store like AutoZone will check for free.Here is a tutorial showing what is involved retrieving check engine light codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

After you have the codes checked please get back to us with the information to help us properly diagnose the truck.As far as fuel filter it's located on the left side of the frame rail inside about mid point. I've attached a picture.I would suggest getting the code(s) first before replacing fuel filter.Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
Danny-
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:47 AM (Merged)
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PANCHOMNDZ
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The pickup was throwing a P0301 OBD code and I decided to change the ignition coil. That seemed to have fixed the problem for a little bit, but it threw the same code again for the same cylinder. Could this mean that it is something more serious?
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Anything is possible. However, did you replace the spark plug at the same time? If you move the coil pack to a different cylinder and clear the code, do you still have a number one misfire or does the misfire change to the new cylinder?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-tune-up-a-car-engine

Let me know

Joe
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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Hi Joe,

So I ended up changing the spark plug since I didn't replace it when I was changing out the coil. The code did go away for around two days but then it came back. The misfire doesn't change to a new cylinder, the scanner keeps saying that it is cylinder one.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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Welcome back:

Okay, since we know the plug and coil are both not the cause, we have to consider the following.

Compression issue
Fuel injector issue
Timing issue

At the present mileage, I would confirm that compression isn't low in that cylinder. As far as the timing, if it is playing a role, you will see it in the compression reading. Here is a link that explains in general how to check compression:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-low-compression

Here are the specifics for your vehicle when checking compression. The two attached pictures relate to your findings.

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Compression Test-Compression Gauge Check
1. Make sure the oil in the crankcase is of the correct viscosity and at the correct level and that the battery is correctly charged. Operate the vehicle until the engine is at normal operating temperature. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position, then remove all the spark plugs.
2. Set the throttle plates in the wide-open position.
3. Install a compression gauge such as the Compression Tester in the No. 1 cylinder.
4. Install an auxiliary starter switch in the starting circuit. With the ignition switch in the OFF position, and using the auxiliary starter switch, crank the engine a minimum of five compression strokes and record the highest reading. Note the approximate number of compression strokes required to obtain the highest reading.
5. Repeat the test on each cylinder, cranking the engine approximately the same number of compression strokes.

Compression Test-Test Results
The indicated compression pressures are considered within specification if the lowest reading cylinder is at least 75 percent of the highest reading. Refer to the Compression Pressure Limit Chart.

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Compression Pressure Limit Chart
If one or more cylinders reads low, squirt approximately one tablespoon of engine oil on top of the pistons in the low-reading cylinders. Repeat the compression pressure check on these cylinders.

Compression Test-Interpreting Compression Readings
1. If compression improves considerably, piston rings are faulty.
2. If compression does not improve, valves are sticking or seating incorrectly.
3. If two adjacent cylinders indicate low compression pressures and squirting oil on each piston does not increase compression, the head gasket may be leaking between cylinders. Engine oil or coolant in cylinders could result from this condition.

Use the Compression Pressure Limit Chart when checking cylinder compression so that the lowest reading is within 75 percent of the highest reading.

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I realize this is a lot of work to do, but since it keeps coming back to the same cylinder, we need to start somewhere to diagnose the cause.

Please feel free to let me know if you have other questions or need help.

Take care,
Joe
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:48 AM (Merged)
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Changed spark plugs on all 6 cylinders, changed 02 sensors truck still missing
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:49 AM (Merged)
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There's a number of other things to consider for a single-cylinder misfire. First try swapping two injectors to see if the misfire moves to a different cylinder. I would do a full tune up with coils this guide should help and check out the video below it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-misfires-or-runs-rough

and

https://youtu.be/e68QXyBAiZo

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:49 AM (Merged)
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TECH69213
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I got all new fuel injectors that fixed it thank you.
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I am at my whits end! I bought the truck listed above about 8 months ago. I was told the truck had the 5.4l originally but had to be replaced about 2 years ago and now has the 4.6l. I was told that it had a miss but that it was not all the time and all I had to do was throw it in neutral and rev it up and it would clear up. For 8 months now I have had a yard ornament! I have replaced all plugs and cool packs and it continuously throws a multiple misfire code everyday for a different cylinder! I can't keep replacing these things just to start it up get to the end of my driveway and have to turn around. Please, please help me! This is my only transportation and I am going crazy!
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:49 AM (Merged)
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Good morning,

Two things I would check right off the bat.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

1. Fuel pressure. misfire codes can be set from low fuel pressure from a bad fuel pump.

2. Compression test. Test all cylinders to be sure there is no internal damage to any of the cylinders.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

Roy
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Okay, I will have those checked. Thanks so much!
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:49 AM (Merged)
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MARK ROBBINS
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I changed out number four coil pack, changed all the spark plugs and cleared the code. It continued to miss fire and the light came back on, I took number three and number four coil packs and switched them out, cleared the code and still getting a miss fire on number four cylinder. I notice that number four fuel injector had a little corrosion. So I replaced the injector and the wire connectors still getting a miss fire. I am now thinking the plug and the coil pack may not be getting any fire. How do I check it and. What is your opinion, I am baffled.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:50 AM (Merged)
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I have seen this problem before which I had to replace the PCM because the injector driver was weak and couldn't open the to let the fuel in here iws how you replace the PCM in the diagrams below.

This guide can help as well

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-misfires-or-runs-rough

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:50 AM (Merged)
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XLT model 5.4L V8. Recurring cylinder four misfire after eight new coils, eight new spark plugs, one new fuel injector on number four, compression test passed. Any ideas?
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:50 AM (Merged)
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I would see if the injector and the ignition coil is getting pulse you could have a connection problem between the injector/coil and the PCM. Here is a guide to help you test the connections and confirm the injector coil operation:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-fuel-injector

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Here is the engine wiring diagrams so you can get started. Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:50 AM (Merged)
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Thanks you so much. I figured out using the guide and the wiring diagrams I had a broken wire to the coil. A simple fix!
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Driving when suddenly I felt a shudder as if transmission was lagging then I accelerate and truck sounds like I am running on one cylinder with a deep clicking sound, almost like a vacuum loss or dead cylinder. No problem with truck up to that point. Service engine light is on now but after its on for a bit it flashes quickly then goes back to still position then flashes again.
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Monday, May 10th, 2021 AT 10:52 AM (Merged)
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You will have to scan it for codes to see if anything like a sensor has gone out.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

I would do a full tune up with coils this guide should help and check out the video below it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-misfires-or-runs-rough

and

https://youtu.be/e68QXyBAiZo

Please run down these guides and report back.
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