My engine is not starting up?

Tiny
FEELIE75
  • MEMBER
  • 2003 HYUNDAI SANTA FE
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 155,000 MILES
Soo, here's the facts :)

* car will crank over and over and over, but not combust and start.
* only seems to happen in the morning.
* i.E. After sitting for a while. (If I came home at 9pm and didn't try to start it until 8am)
* AFTER it's started, the car runs FINE. AND it will restart FINE for the rest of the day.

Now, after about 20 minutes of cranking, it WILL eventually start. And this always happens after it starts:
* SQUEAL SQUEAL SQUEAL. Some belt or something squeal loudly for about a minute.
* there IS a smell of burn fuel from my car after failed attempts of starting it.

OH, here's an interesting fact:
* I tried push starting and popping the clutch one morning after 10 minutes of failed cranking. THAT started it.

Side facts:
* I got the started replaced last fall. I suspect the inordinate cranking-over killed the starter so I think this is a side-effect not a cause. I had to push-start my car for 2 months before getting it replaced. Then it died 3 weeks later after I cranked-over for 20 minutes one day. Got it replaced again and have tamed my crank-over durations to
Do you
have the same problem?
Yes
No
Sunday, February 8th, 2015 AT 11:42 PM

47 Replies

Tiny
HMAC300
  • EXPERT
This sounds like a fuel pump or the crankshaft angels sensor has gone out. When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run down this guide and report back. scan for codes and check fuel pressure with a gauge auto parts rent it.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, February 9th, 2015 AT 7:04 AM
Tiny
FEELIE75
  • MEMBER
Oh hmm hadn't thought about Renting a gauge. Thanks!

The Check Engine light isn't on right now, but it has occasionally come on. The last time I was able to scan the code before it turned off, it returned Misfire Cylinder 1. But the car runs smoothly, but I've heard that's possible with newer cars, they can compensate for bad spark plugs, etc. Who knows.

The check light isn't on anymore, it turns off after a few days by itself.

I'll try to find a gauge today!
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, February 9th, 2015 AT 12:00 PM
Tiny
FEELIE75
  • MEMBER
It turns out it was the crankshaft sensor FYI
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Tuesday, February 10th, 2015 AT 4:56 PM
Tiny
BENZENWENGER
  • MEMBER
  • 2002 HYUNDAI SANTA FE
  • 2.7L
  • V6
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 134,000 MILES
My father got a 2002 Hyundai Santa Fe 4wd 2.7 with a broken timing belt that he got.

I got a used Motor with 75000 miles, put a new timing belt, water pump, spark plugs & Wires, New Crank Sensor, Cam Sensor, Coolant and hoses, Oil and Tranny Fluid, Coil Pack. Has been running fine for the last month.

3/30/16 at 7am when my mother was on her way to work drove 10 miles then just died on her. Try's to start motor turns over just wont start

Pulled it home, Scanned OBll with no codes, Has Fuel, Has Spark, has good Compression, changed crank sensor, cam sensor, MAF Sensor, Oil Sensor, Throttle Sensor, Safety Sensor on Transmission
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JOHNNYT73
  • EXPERT
Did you check compression while you had the throttle open or closed? Try it with it open. If for some reason the timing went out, and compression is going beck through the intake and the throttle is closed it may show good compression when its not.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
BENZENWENGER
  • MEMBER
When closed 180lb when open 120lb, thought it mite have been a clogged cat so removed the exhaust pips still nothing? Maybe a bad ECM?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
HMAC300
  • EXPERT
Try resetting security system if no manual look online on how to reset for your car
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
BENZENWENGER
  • MEMBER
Tried that, put another coil pack on, swapped the ECM, took off the exhaust manifold so motor could breath better, bad wire harness? Is there any place I could get a used or new one? For the motor compartment?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
HMAC300
  • EXPERT
Wiring harnesses don't go bad that often. Scan for codes to see if there is a problem or not and check fuel pressure with a gauge. Otherwise you are just guessing
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
BENZENWENGER
  • MEMBER
Has got fuel, there are no codes coming up not one, mite just turn it into a parts car lol
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
KEN
  • ADMIN
Do you have injector pulse?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-fuel-injector

Check out this article to see, and then get back to us please
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
THARRISON4
  • MEMBER
  • 2002 HYUNDAI SANTA FE
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 153,536 MILES
I purchased the car last week and drove on the highway a week later and the car shut off on me while driving on the highway and will not start back up. I tried to start it but I heard a noise from the back and then smoke came from the tail pipe. I don't know what to do.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • EXPERT
Good afternoon,

You need to check the timing belt. It may have failed. When it does, the crank and cam timing is off and the engine will stop.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-timing-belt-works

To verify, do a compression test.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

Roy
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:13 AM (Merged)
Tiny
PETEHNSMOM
  • MEMBER
  • 2002 HYUNDAI SANTA FE
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 166,000 MILES
One day I went to the store and came out my car wont not start got a new battery and alternator still everything light up but car didn't start. I got a mechanic to look at it and they said it was my starter I replace the starter and then started it. It gave me a start but jerk like I was running out of gas. He said it was my fuel pump. Got a fuel pump and he puts it in the car wont light up or nothing. He said my ignition fuse was blown. Okay, so I get the fuse and now everything lights up and the car sounds like it is starting but still wont start. Please help me.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
  • EXPERT
Welcome to 2CarPros.

If the starter engages and the engine refuses to start, it usually is either a fuel related issue or ignition. First, take a look through this link. It explains the most common causes of a crank/no start condition.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Now what we have to do is check for spark and fuel to the engine. There are two ways to do this. First, and easiest, is to see if the engine will start for a couple seconds using starting fluid. If it does, it's a fuel related issue. If it won't even try to start with starting fluid, most likely it is ignition related.

If you feel uncomfortable using starting fluid, here are two links that explain how to check for ignition spark and fuel pressure:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

Here are directions specific to checking fuel pressure on your vehicle. The attached pictures correlate with the directions, provide the manufacturer's pressure specifications, and tell what to check based on different conditions.

_______________________________________

FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM

Fuel Pressure Test

1. PREPARING
1. Open the service cover under the floor carpet.

2. RELEASE THE INTERNAL PRESSURE
1. Disconnect the fuel pump connector.
2. Start the engine and wait until fuel in fuel line is exhausted.
3. After the engine stalls, turn the ignition switch to OFF position and disconnect the negative (-) terminal from the battery.

Note: Be sure to reduce the fuel pressure before disconnecting the fuel feed hose, otherwise fuel will spill out

Fuel Pressure Special Service Tool
pic 1

3. INSTALL THE SPECIAL SERVICE TOOL (SST) FOR MEASURING THE FUEL PRESSURE
1. Disconnect the fuel feed hose from the delivery pipe.

Caution: Cover the hose connection with a shop towel to prevent splashing of fuel caused by residual pressure in the fuel line.

2. Install the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000) between the delivery pipe and the fuel feed hose.
3. Connect the Fuel Pressure Gage Connector (09353-24000) to the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000).
4. Connect the Fuel Pressure Gage and Hose (09353 41 00) to Fuel Pressure Gage Connector (09353-24000).
5. Connect the fuel feed hose to the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000).

4. INSPECT FUEL LEAKAGE ON CONNECTION
1. Connect the battery negative (-) terminal.
2. Apply battery voltage to the fuel pump terminal and activate the fuel pump. With fuel pressure applied, check that there is no fuel leakage from the fuel pressure gauge or connection part.

5. FUEL PRESURE TEST
1. Disconnect the negative (-) terminal from the battery.
2. Connect the fuel pump connector.
3. Connect the battery negative (-) terminal.
4. Start the engine and measure the fuel pressure at idle.
Standard Value: 343 Kpa (3.5 kgf/cm cm, 49.8 psi)

Incorrect Pressure
pic 2

If the measured fuel pressure differs from the standard value, perform the necessary repairs using the table below.

Pressure Drops
pic 3

5. Stop the engine and check for a change in the fuel pressure gauge reading.
After engine stops, the gage reading should hold for about 5 minutes
Observing the declination of the fuel pressure when the gage reading drops and perform the necessary repairs using the table below.

6. RELEASE THE INTERNAL PRESSURE
1. Disconnect the fuel pump connector.
2. Start the engine and wait until fuel in fuel line is exhausted.
3. After the engine stalls, turn the ignition switch to OFF position and disconnect the negative (-) terminal from the battery.

Note: Be sure to reduce the fuel pressure before dIsconnecting the fuel feed hose, otherwise fuel will spill out.
________________________________

7. REMOVE THE SPECIAL SERVICE TOOL (SST) AND CONNECT THE FUEL LINE
1. Disconnect the Fuel Pressure Gage and Hose (09353-24100) from the Fuel Pressure Gage Connector (09353-24000).
2. Disconnect the Fuel Pressure Gage Connector (09353-24000) from the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000).
3. Disconnect the fuel feed hose from the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000).
4. Disconnect the Fuel Pressure Gage Adapter (09353-38000) from the delivery pipe.

Caution: Cover the hose connection with a shop towel to prevent splashing of fuel caused by residual pressure in the fuel line.

5. Connect the fuel feed hose to the delivery pipe.

8. INSPECT FUEL LEAKAGE ON CONNECTION
1. Connect the battery negative (-) terminal.
2. Apply battery voltage to the fuel pump terminal and activate the fuel pump. With fuel pressure applied, check that there is no fuel leakage from the fuel pressure gauge or connection part.
3. If the vehicle is normal, connect the fuel pump connector.

_____________________________________________

I realize you may not have a fuel pressure gauge, but most parts stores will lend or rent one to you.

Let me know what you find or if you have other directions.

Take care,
Joe
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
TO2LEGAL1
  • MEMBER
  • 2001 HYUNDAI SANTA FE
  • 100 MILES
Replaced plugs and wires now has crank and no start
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
SATURNTECH9
  • MEMBER
If changing the plugs and wires caused a crank no start maybe you crossed some of the spark plug wires to the wrong place?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
TO2LEGAL1
  • MEMBER
Only has the 2 plug wires that run to 2 single coils
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
SATURNTECH9
  • MEMBER
Alright let me get this stright the engine started and ran good aside from the cyl 1 miss fire before you changed the plugs and wires?Then from the moment you changed the plugs and wires you now have a crank no start?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
TO2LEGAL1
  • MEMBER
Yes. It did run rough but now cranks over but no start
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 AT 9:15 AM (Merged)

Please login or register to post a reply.

Sponsored links