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Was neutral safety switch checked out?

this guide will help us

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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JBRAVO69
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Yep just replaced it still nothing but at least my backup lights work now lol still cant figure it out maybe the pcm?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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At starter relay is there 12v on black wire?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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Yes at the relay is a yellow(switch) brown(power) and a brown/yellow(ground/neutral safety) and a black that ends in the harness if I take out the relay and swap it out with any of the other 3 relays(all the same) I get nothing , but if I take out the relay and run a jumper from the brown to the yellow it starts now aint that a ass scratcher? Any ideas i`m going bonkers here! Thanx
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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O.K. Then when key in start position does yellow wire have power?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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What about Black wire does it have 12+ volts
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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Brown wire does black wire goes nowhere
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:37 AM (Merged)
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There MUST be voltage on black that is what powers solenoid. It should go to fuse"B" in PDC
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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I understand but on this vehicle its brown I traced it from the pdc to the solenoid and yes it has 12+ volts
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Don't know who has been working on truck brown wire should go to starter solenoid, black wire hot, yellow hot with key, Brown'yellow ground. Yellow powers uo coil closes relay black wire feeds brown to close solenoid. When you say Black wire goes no where what just hanging?
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Yes looks like it was cut with a coupla others and taped up back in the harness going to nothing. Had the truck for 7 yrs never done anything to it but routine maintenance til now. Never had any issues whatsoever, my son was listening to the radio in it and ever since it hasnt started, unless I run a jumper wire from the yellow to the brown in the PDC and it will start.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Wire up black wire to power then it should start
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Wired it up and it fired right up! Thanx docfixit! Still cant figure out how it started all this time unless there was a power feed on there and it busted or fell off but couldnt find any signs of where it was or should have been oh well the mysteries! THANKS AGAIN DOCFIXIT!
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Welcome wright it as a machine vs man and man won
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Doc,

I really like to see one go back and forth like that.

Especially when one draws the picture, and the other one colors it. Staying within the lines. An it's a keeper. Now hanging on the "fridge"!

Jbravo69, it's sorta rare to see the other party "Grasp" the instructions, and report back, with the needed info, without some Glitch!

I'd like to obtain a "everybody understands everybody, the 1st time" fast, smooth repair. With the ones I answer, more often!

Doc, I'll put in a good word about you, to the Big Guys, at our next 2carpicnic

he he!

The Medic
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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Thanks
Needed a good laugh to end my day
Ernie
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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It sounds like you just said that when you bypass the neutral/safety switch your vehicle starts. Perhaps you answered the question.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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What would cause a starter to bench test fine and then when you put it in the truck it doesn't work at all. I can get it to work by jumping the two terminals on the starter.
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Monday, January 13th, 2020 AT 10:38 AM (Merged)
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I'd check the voltage circuits at the starter relay. Voltage for the load/switch side of relay, is hot all the time. Voltage to the coil side of relay, goes hot with the key in the crank position.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/170934_dakota_starter_relay_1.jpg

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