No electrical?

Tiny
MINMDM
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  • 1999 HONDA ACCORD
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 140,000 MILES
This has happened about four times in the last four months:
I try to start the car and it is dead. The clock is on but nothing else. The horn may or may not blow faintly. A few minutes later there is power to the radio, the windows and maybe the horn, but when I turn the key nothing. When I turn the key back one position I have flashing lights of the open door indicator.
I call for a jump, it starts, I get home turn it off its dead. I come out hours later it starts.
This has repeated in similar fashion at least four times.
Any idea what this could be?
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 6:01 PM

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Tiny
CARADIODOC
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Follow the smaller battery positive wire to the under-hood fuse box, and be sure that connection is clean and tight. Also, follow the smaller negative wire to the body and be sure that connection is tight and not rusty. Do not overlook loose or dirty battery cable connections. These guides can help us find the problem.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-car-electrical-system-works

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 6:17 PM
Tiny
ONEACCORD99
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  • 1999 HONDA ACCORD
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
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  • 103,000 MILES
Having some electrical issues with 99 accord.

Problem 1: Could not start the car. When restarting the car after a short time-frame (i.E. Quick errands like pumping gasoline, quick trip in and out of store, etc.) Or in hot weather the car wouldn't start for a few minutes (after quite a few tries).

Problem 2: The entire climate control panel in the center of the dash lost power.

I replaced the 15 fuses in the fuse box and under the hood, as well as the main relay, today. So far, there've been no issues starting car. However, in the midst of dealing with the climate control panel, discovered another issue.

Problem 3: The metal prong (under the black temp control knob) is insanely hot, as it never has been before. The knob broke months ago and I've been using the metal prong to adjust the a/c and heat. While trying to figure out the cause of the lost power to climate control panel, I removed the knob to try adjusting temp and burned fingers very badly. The metal was extremely hot (like hot oil) and part of the plastic casing around the knob area looks like it's melting.

If anyone has had any of these issues and can shed some light on what the heck is happening to my car, or even better, if you've resolved similar problems, please let me know! Thanks.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:00 AM (Merged)
Tiny
2CEXPT
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There's a short some where within that circuit.The climate control unit is being power by the 7.5 amp fuse no. 13. if there's an actual short it should blow this fuse.See below and remove the driver's multiplex control unit and feel the knob again.

In addition check the white and yellow wire for a short to ground that goes to the climate control unit.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_climate_control_1.jpg

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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
SFLOORE
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  • 1998 HONDA ACCORD
Honda Accord 1998 155,000mi, automatic, 4cyl

When letting off the gas pedal, the electrical system shuts off for a brief second. Radio shuts off, meters go to zero, inside lights shut off. It might not even be a second, then everythings back to normal. It would do this like clockwork, accelerate, let off the gas, blink. Oddly enough, turning on the headlights makes the issue disappear. Turn the lights off and its back again.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
LOSONE
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Humm the most probable cause of the problem is a deffective alternator. Idling with lights on you read about 14 volts.

However you need to check the grounds from the battery to the engine and to the car chassis. Remove and clean them as they may have corrosion behind them.

Recently I found a similiar problem with a defective battery. It was totally dry.

Good luck losone
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
MASKEEN
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  • 1998 HONDA ACCORD
This is a 98 accord, 173,000 miles, automatic. While riding down the road, has "shut down" - completely dead 3 times in the last 2 weeks. First 2 times it came back on, but the last time we had to stop, and then it restarted. Battery is about 6 months old with some corrosion problems on 1 post.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
BRUCE HUNT
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This could be a crank or cam sensor. It could be a fuel pressure regulator as well. It always has started as you mentioned and that makes it more difficult to diagnose. You mentioned that the first two times it came back on so with an automatic that indicates to me that it never really died but rather stuttered pretty good. It will get worse. I might lean my consideration to the fuel pressure regulator based on the two almost dead but came back experiences.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
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CRSGZMN01@YAHOO.COM
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  • 1998 HONDA ACCORD
  • 4 CYL
  • 193,745 MILES
My dashlights dont work, everything shuts off when I turn on the headlight, but when on the off position the odometer works. I changed the dimmer switch as well as the turn signal mecanism, I also change th cluster and I still have the same probloem. Does anybody have any #@#%$ing idea what is going on or should I just torch the car cause it is driving me crazy. 98 Honda Accord, 4 cylinder
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
KHLOW2008
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Was anything done prior to this occurring?

Did you check the dash brightness controller?

The other item related to this problem would be the driver's multiplex control unit.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
MELSMAIL
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  • 1998 HONDA ACCORD
  • 4 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 16,700 MILES
Occasionally my car will not start. It will have NO electricity, no lights, no dash, nothing. In the next few moments I will open the door and there will be the lights, etc. And it will start right up. I just purchased a new battery because occasionally there would be "cranking" before it would start and had not had a new one in 8 years. What is this an indication of, no electricity at all one moment and all power the next.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
KHLOW2008
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Hi melsmail,

If everything including the horn and head lighst fails and suddenly is available, the most likely problem would be bad contacts at the battery terminals.

Clean the battery teriminals, retighten and retest.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JASWEET
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  • 1998 HONDA ACCORD
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  • 415,000 MILES
I'm living in Thailand and driving a "rebuilt", government inspected and approved 1998 Accord. Sometimes the car doesn't start. I would say this happens about one time out of 20 and it seems to happen most frequently when the car has been used and left sitting for about a half an hour. When it won't start it is a matter of the ignition key being turned and nothing happens. There is no sound and absolutely nothing happens. If we wait for a long period of time it is able to start once again, but we never know how long the wait will take.
This problem has been going on for well over a year. We have had new batteries put in and we have had a new ignition system installed. The connections to the battery have been redone also. Theories about the cause of the problem have been crazy. Some people say the front tires need to be straight and others say it is necessary to have a foot on the brake in order to start the car. A current theory says that, since the car is set up for both natural gas and gasoline fueling, it is necessary to have good amounts of both fuel sources in order to start the car. This would not explain how the car starts after a long wait. Neither does it explain why the car starts when jumper cables are used on the battery. It appears to me that the jumper cables prove that the problem is between the ignition key and the battery. Supposedly a new ignition system and new connections to the battery would solve the problem if it is indeed between the ignition key and the battery. However, the problem continues. It may be that the wires going to the battery have a short, or the new ignition system was not inserted correctly. My guess is that there is some kind of "electrical short" involved and the local mechanics do not how to deal with it.
If you have a solution to this, I will be eternally grateful. I don't know who you are, but I will certainly be glad to reimburse you if you can solve this.
James A. Sweet sweetjalan@yahoo. Com
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
CARADIODOC
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When you say "nothing happens", are you referring to the starter motor or the entire electrical system? If there's no dash lights and the electrical system is dead, a common suspect is to follow the smaller battery positive wire to the under-hood fuse box and be sure that connection is clean and tight. While you're at it, follow the smaller negative battery wire to the body and be sure that one is tight and not rusty.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
NITEGIRL412
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  • 1997 HONDA ACCORD
Drove the car twice today worked fine. Went to drive to the store and there is no power to the car at all. Battery has power, checked all fuses and they are fine. Honk doesn't even work. Please help only car we have.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JEREMIAH
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IF there is absolutely no power at all, no dashboard lights, hazard switch doesn't work, headlights do not work.100amp ignition fuse in your fuse box. Unless the battery terminal is loose.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Start with the 100 amp fuse


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_fuse_17.jpg

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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JAIDEE808
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  • 1997 HONDA ACCORD
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 70,000 MILES
Hello,

I have a problem with my car, I have brought a new battery, replaced it with the old one, and still the car would not start. The headlights and interior lights doesn't turn on with the new battery. Your advice would be great! Thank you
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
HONDA TECH 1818
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Does the engine starts?
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JAIDEE808
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The Engine does not start at all.
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Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 10:01 AM (Merged)
Tiny
YANKEES_1977
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Check battery cables.I had the ground cable carode under the plastic coating. Replaced cable for like 10 bucks and all works.
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