Ignition switch connector

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That sensor may be the issue if the connector is okay with no damaged pins or wires.

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Friday, July 6th, 2018 AT 9:37 AM
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I have new code today.
P0884 †Transmission control module (TCM) -power input signal intermittent malfunction.
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 10:15 AM
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Did you replace the sensor yet?

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884

P0884
Item Description
Symptom/DTC P0884
Descriptor
Power Up At Speed
Probable Causes
Intermittent Power and Ground Circuits

P0884-POWER UP AT SPEED

When Monitored:
One time after each controller reset. Note: the Transmission Control Module is integrated with Powertrain Control Module. The Transmission Control Module has separate powers and grounds specifically to its portion of the PCM.

Set Condition
This DTC will set if the PCM powers up and senses the vehicle in a valid forward gear (no PRNDL DTCs) with a output speed above 800 RPM, approximately 32Km/h or 20 MPH.

Possible Causes
- INTERMITTENT POWER AND GROUND CIRCUITS

Always perform the 40/41TE Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding.

Theory of Operation
If a vehicle loses power to the PCM, the vehicle will go to the 2nd gear mode since there is no power available to control the transmission solenoids. However if power is restored, the PCM will power-up and normal operation will be restored. This DTC identifies that power to the PCM was restored when the gear selector was in a Drive position while the vehicle was moving at speeds above 32 Km/h (20 MPH). If a customer shifts to Neutral and cycles the ignition key and quickly shifts to Drive while moving before the PCM comes out of its START ROUTINE, the DTC can be set. Therefore it is critical that this DTC diagnosis repair procedure should only be used if the vehicle is experiencing intermittent 2nd gear operation and subsequently a return to normal operation during normal driving. The transmission will not be placed in Limp-in. This is an informational DTC to be used when attempting to diagnose an intermittent 2nd gear operation and subsequent return to normal transmission operation.

Diagnostic Test
1. CHECK THE POWER AND GROUND CIRCUITS
This DTC is set when the PCM is initialized while the vehicle is moving in a valid forward gear. This is usually caused by a momentary loss of power to the Transmission portion of the PCM.

CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install Miller Special Tool #8815 to perform diagnosis.

NOTE: Due to the integration of the Powertrain and Transmission Control Modules, the transmission part of the PCM has its own specific power and ground circuits.

Check all of the Fused B+, Fused Ignition Switch Output, and Ground circuits related to the PCM for an intermittent open or short to ground.
Perform a wiggle test on all wiring and connectors pertaining to the PCM while looking for shorted or open circuits.
With the scan tool, check the DTC EVENT DATA to help identify the conditions in which the DTC was set.
If there are no possible causes remaining, view repair.
Repair
Repair as necessary
Perform 40/41TE VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 See: A L L Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC ) > Verification Tests > 40/41TE Transmission Verification Test
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 12:19 PM
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Also, when I turn the key to run positions. The battery light comes on and off and the temperature gauge goes up and down and I hear relay clicking. I think it is the auto shut down relay. I got a TIPM from the junk yard, can I just plug it in and see?
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 1:01 PM
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No, it has to be programmed to your car. It is actually a module.

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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 1:50 PM
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I do not understand why when I disconnect the negative battery the car shift fine it is like nothing happen. The TIPM has no mechanical relay they are electronics. Can they fail intermittently? Because I checked the control voltage and load voltage they are fine.
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:25 PM
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The fault that is set, the PCM goes to a default mode. That means it just forgets the issue when you disconnect the negative cable. It does not fix anything or restore settings. That is a myth.

When the fault sets again, then it goes into default and the same issue happens.

The TIPM has internal relays not accessible to anyone.

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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:31 PM
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Can the electronic relays fail intermittently?
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:38 PM
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Yes, they can, just like any other relay or component.

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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:41 PM
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So I need to check the relay output voltage when the car is in limp in mode.
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:43 PM
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Check this video same problem I have .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmklJYMxO-8
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:45 PM
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No, when the fault is set, the PCM takes over all the controls until the repairs are made and the code cleared.

If you want to monitor the controls you need an advanced scan tool that can access the transmission live data and see what the voltages are at the sensors and solenoids.
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 3:46 PM
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The guy in the video said he got one from junk yard and he just plugged it in?
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 4:11 PM
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So when the computer see no return voltage it will not send voltage to control the relay right?
So what can causes low return voltage is short to ground? Bad connections and open right?
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Saturday, July 7th, 2018 AT 5:10 PM
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Today I have p1603 and U0101 codes.
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Sunday, July 8th, 2018 AT 10:06 AM
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Sorry, was traveling today.

Did you replace it?

Is that our video?

Voltage can either be controlled by sending or monitoring the return voltage. The TIPM is a muti control module.

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Sunday, July 8th, 2018 AT 11:57 AM
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No, I did not replace the TIPM. Today I cleaned all connector going to the transmission I wiggled the transmission range sensor/temperature sensor no codes after I T pined the solenoid pack connector red wire when the car shifting there is 14.0 volts when it is not 35mv. Also, two codes showed up p01603 and U0101.

Just let you know I appreciate your help I wish I can meet you and shake your hand.

Thank you.
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Sunday, July 8th, 2018 AT 12:17 PM
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You are welcome. Glad to help.

If you look at the possibilities for the U101, one of the possibles is the TIPM mis-configuration. My confirmation that it is programmed module.

Roy

1603

P1603
Item Description
Symptom/DTC P1603
Descriptor
Pcm Internal Dual-Port Ram Communication Failure
Probable Causes
Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Fused Ignition Switch Circuit
Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Internal

u101

U0101
Item Description
Symptom/DTC U0101
Descriptor
Lost Communication With Tcm
Probable Causes
Controller Area Network (CAN) B or CAN C Bus Circuits Open or Shorted
Controller Area Network (CAN) C Bus Failure Open or Shorted Condition
DTCs Related to Battery Voltage, Ignition, or VIN Messages
Module That Set This DTC
Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) Misconfigured
Transmission Control Module (TCM) (Powertrain Control Module)
Transmission Control Module (TCM) Power and Ground
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Sunday, July 8th, 2018 AT 12:32 PM
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For the p1603 one possibility is power-train control module (PCM) fused ignition switch circuit.
I looked at the PCM pinout diagram there is pin 11 it gets power from the ignition switch and pin 30 gets power from the TIPM. Can you confirm it please?
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Sunday, July 8th, 2018 AT 12:48 PM
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Yes, verify those two powers.

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