Car cranks, does not start, multiple issues and fault codes 17089, P0685, P0883 and P0576

Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 2008 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF
  • 1.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 120,000 MILES
Car cranks over won't start, no wipers front or rear, no washers front or rear, no main beam flasher, no hazards, no horn and no interior light. Also, anything connected with steering wheel/column not working. Fault codes 17089, P0685, 0883 and 0576. Please help I need to get my daughter's car back on the road.

Monday, May 18th, 2020 AT 7:59 AM

12 Replies

Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • MECHANIC
  • 52,796 POSTS
Good morning,

The 685 seems to be the key. This is for the power control relay and that controls power to all the modules which explains why you have all these failures.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Check all your fuses for power on both sides with a test light to be sure power is available.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

Are you having any issues with the transmission? The 883 is about voltage to the transmission control module.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/automatic-transmission-problems

I do not have immediate access to wiring diagrams for you. I will keep searching and will update when I get the diagrams.

Roy

Images (Click to make bigger)
Thumb
Thumb
Thumb
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Monday, May 18th, 2020 AT 12:26 PM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Thank you for your reply and additional information. Plenty of weekend reading and more importantly understanding. How to implement it all.

The code is 00883.

I couldn't find wiring diagram anywhere so your help is gratefully appreciated.

Thanks again.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, May 18th, 2020 AT 1:43 PM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
PS. Forgot to add car cranks but won't start so don't know about transmission. Do you think this is an easy fix based on what you know?

Thanks again.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, May 18th, 2020 AT 1:48 PM
Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • MECHANIC
  • 52,796 POSTS
Okay, a couple questions.

1. When you crank it, does the tachometer move up a little showing RPM? That will tell me if the crank sensor is working

2. When you turn on the key, does the fuel pump run?

Roy
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, May 18th, 2020 AT 3:54 PM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Hello,

1) Yes, slight movement on tachometer, please see video attached.
2) Yes, I can hear the fuel pump engage.

Thank you for support.
Video (Click to make bigger)
Thumb
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Tuesday, May 19th, 2020 AT 6:07 AM
Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • MECHANIC
  • 52,796 POSTS
Okay, I do not see any RPM reading at all. This indicates to me that the crank sensor is not working.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-crank-shaft-angle-sensor-works

I am having trouble finding information for this engine. I will see what I can find for the crank sensor. I will update when I get more information.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/crankshaft-angle-sensor-replacement

Roy

Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Tuesday, May 19th, 2020 AT 6:38 AM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Roy,

1) Thanks the engine ref is BUD 426324.

2) Question, would the crank sensor affect the horn, wiper, washer, hazards as well (i'm learning so forgive my ignorance).

3) Blimey, if it's the ECU i've just had a quote of � 250. That my budget so what if that does not fix fault.

Only got one roll of the dice so it would be great to fix the car first time. Just ordered my first fuse light tester.

Alex
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Tuesday, May 19th, 2020 AT 6:52 AM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Okay, i'll update you once I received test light and then carried out inspection.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Tuesday, May 19th, 2020 AT 8:49 AM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Hi Roy,

The test light has finally arrived.

Great bit of kit pointed out why the car won't start but still don't know where the problem lies.

Test light shown.

No power to fuse at the top and bottom of fuse panel at the side of dash (photo attached).

No power to the 4 fuses either side of the 100 relay in engine compartment (photo attached).

What next please?

Alex
Images (Click to make bigger)
Thumb
Thumb
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 6:08 AM
Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • MECHANIC
  • 52,796 POSTS
Can you tell me what the fuses control? It should be on the cover for the fuse block. That way, I can get a diagram of the fuse block to find out what powers those fuses.

Roy
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 6:16 AM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
Roy,

My apologies I did a light test on the fuses with the ignition off and the result was what I posted to you earlier.

I have now carried out another light test with ignition on and all fuses working sorry for the school boy error.

Cheap repair carried out so far to-date:

1) Ignition switch change.
2) Relay number 460 change.

Next action to be guided by you.

Further relay purchase and changes?
Multi-metre purchase and action.
Other action.

Alex
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 8:35 AM
Tiny
LONE RANGER
  • MEMBER
  • 10 POSTS
The result from ignition off related to engine management system, engine control module. With ignition on all fuse okay does this mean that the ECU is okay or is this just wishful thinking by me?

Thank you
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 8:39 AM

Please login or register to post a reply.

Related Engine Not Running Content

Car Cranking but Not Starting? Try This
VIDEO
Car Cranking but Not Starting? Try This
In­struc­tional re­pair video
Engine Not Starting
GUIDE
Engine Not Starting
Over the past 20 years at 2CarPros we have iden­ti­fied the top prob­lems that are eas­ily fixed. This guide can save you a trip to the re­pair garage or call­ing a tow truck and...
VIEW MORE