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Getting power to the relay but not the pump.
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 10:59 AM
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Okay, how many powers do you have at the relay?

Does it click with the key on?

Did you look at the diagram the other tech sent you?

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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 12:23 PM
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Using a test light do not hear it click when key on. Tried checking for power at green and black wire that goes to pump had helper turn key on while checking no power to pump. Will double check the diagram.
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 12:33 PM
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Caradiodoc, expert, said;

Cranking has nothing to do with the ASD relay. If you do have spark, we know the ASD relay is turning on, so the cause of the bad pump has to be after that. You will need to check for 12 volts on the dark green/black wire in the fuel pump's connector, but you have to do that while a helper is cranking the engine. As an alternative, you can unplug the ASD relay, then use a stretched-out paper clip, or piece of wire, in the socket to jump the red wire to the dark green/black wire. The ignition switch does not have to be on for this. The jumper will put 12 volts on the dark green/black circuit so you can test for that at the pump's connector
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 1:02 PM
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Okay, I read that on your other post.

He is correct but I would not have jumped the ASD. I would go right to the fuel pump relay.

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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 1:45 PM
Tiny
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When I did that I can hear the pump running while I am under the car at the pump does that mean the relay is bad?
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 1:54 PM
Tiny
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I thought the fuel pump relay was integrated with the ASD relay.
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 1:55 PM
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You are right. It is part of the ASD relay.

It feeds injectors and the coil. As he said, if you have spark, then it is not the ASD relay. It has to be wiring from the relay back to the pump connector.

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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 2:14 PM
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If no spark then it is the relay?
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 2:15 PM
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Possible, but you need to check for voltage to the positive side of the ignition coil.

If you do, then no, it is not the relay.

If it does not, check for power first to the relay. If there is, it may be either the relay or the ECM.

If there is not, then check your fuses for power on both sides.

Roy
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 2:23 PM
Tiny
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Replaced pump and relay fuse is good but not getting power to the fuse. I think used test light on fuse and terminals but no indication of power to the test light. Took fuse out and tried to start car does same thing as when it is in. What is my next step?
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Monday, November 5th, 2018 AT 10:03 PM
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It sounds like you have an issue at the fuse box if you have no power to the fuse. Inspect the fuse box carefully for any damage.

Due to the age, you may have wire harness degrading from age.

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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 3:09 AM
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The only time I am getting power to the fuse is when I jump the dark green and black wire to the red wire. That makes the pump stay running.
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:35 AM
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How this all started was; I was driving down the road then the car lost power and I got out checked under hood and the alternator belt was off and the accessory belts but I put them back on. Could it be the time belt came loose too. That is when I did not hear the fuel pump come on anymore and sprayed starting fluid and it started and shut off so I thought the fuel pump went out. Need to get the car back on the road been stranded for two weeks already. Thanks for all the help so far Roy.
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:39 AM
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You are back feeding the wire. You need to find the source of the failure as it needs to run without a jumper.

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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:40 AM
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Okay. How do I do that?
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:59 AM
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As I stated before. You need to look closely at the fuse block for damaged wires going to the block. Power for the fuses runs on a common rail that feeds all the fuses.

It may be a bad fuse block or wiring issue.

Roy
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 7:50 AM
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Took off distributor and found this under the pick up assembly.
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:56 PM
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Not sure what this part is called but need to know so I can replace it tonight. Stuck in parking lot at autozone.
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Tuesday, November 6th, 2018 AT 5:59 PM
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That is what is left of the pick up coil. Replace it. You can get it at a parts store.

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