Almost cranks but will not quite crank?

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That still sounds fuel related, with how it has to turn over smooth it isn't internal engine or ignition related. Neutral switch would shut off the starter. Try this, get a can of starter fluid, now have someone try to start it while you spray some into the air intake, remove the air filter for access. If you can get it to start and run that way then you need to look at the pump and it's connections, then use a pressure gauge to verify the fuel pressure is constant while cranking and that it holds pressure as it tries to run. The other item on these is the EGR valve. They can get blocked open and that causes a large problem when they try to start. You can remove it with the 2 bolts then look into the pintle area. With it off it should be fully closed. GM had an issue in the early 4.3s where carbon in the engine would build up and a chunk could get caught in the pintle and the engine would stall out and run like poo if you could get it started. The solution is to use a cable on a drill and run it into the passages on the intake to knock the carbon free and then start the engine to blow the stuff out. There are Clean-Screen gaskets that can help stop the problem if it is carbon. My 94 had it happen to it. Hearing how yours was trying to start caused flashbacks.
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Tuesday, March 18th, 2025 AT 8:07 PM
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I took the EGR off and cleaned it, the button where you pointed in the picture is poking out, does that mean it is open or closed? Does it mean I can't reuse it? Also do I need to replace the distributor, it cranked again whenever I took off the EGR but I shut it off because it sounded like it was giving birth to an elephant. I don't quite know what to look for as far as the condition of I pull the distributor out.
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Thursday, March 20th, 2025 AT 12:40 PM
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You should be able to see if there is any carbon in the EGR as it would hold the pintle off the seat and there would be a gap around it. Shine a light into the rect. Port and see if you see light. If no light bolt it back on, but plug the vacuum line to it and then see if it changes it at all. There is a control solenoid that turns off the vacuum to it, if it went bad it could hold the EGR open. Bolting it back on disconnected would block the passage, if it now starts and runs you would look at the solenoid. If there is no change then we need to check something else. Like actual fuel pressure.
The issue isn't the distributor. It wouldn't cause this issue and instead it would either not run at all or it would be backfiring through the intake or exhaust.
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Thursday, March 20th, 2025 AT 3:29 PM
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No change with the EGR now clean and back on, wouldn't crank even with starter fluid. I even checked and rechecked the grounds and relays and fuses and wires. I'm at a loss and really close to taking it into the shop, I just need it fixed.
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Sunday, March 23rd, 2025 AT 12:59 PM
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If it still acted the way it was in the video even with the spray it may be an internal issue. However I would still check the timing and compression. It's not common but it might have jumped time at the timing chain. That usually creates odd symptoms though, not just a hard and long crank like you have but backfires and pops which you don't have. It's also possible the PCM is acting up but unless you have an OBD I capable scan tool that is hard to check.
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Sunday, March 23rd, 2025 AT 3:09 PM
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What's the easiest way to do the timing without a timing tool?
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Sunday, March 23rd, 2025 AT 4:51 PM
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Timing light on cylinder one and aimed at the balancer is the only reliable way. You can generally get one as a loaner tool if you don't have one.
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Sunday, March 23rd, 2025 AT 7:28 PM
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Isn't there a way to set timing without a timing light?
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Monday, March 24th, 2025 AT 8:56 PM
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Sorry there isn't, not to test the actual timing.
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Monday, March 24th, 2025 AT 10:03 PM
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I've set the timing and still not cranking, no changes. Could a bad ignition switch be causing all this, I have a lot of play in the steering wheel and can't turn the key backwards like a regular one.
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Sunday, March 30th, 2025 AT 4:14 AM
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Also I no longer can get the codes by counting the flashes through putting a wire between A&B it was working but all I got was one then two flashes indicating 12 now it does not flash at all. Don't know what happened.
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Sunday, March 30th, 2025 AT 4:18 AM
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From the description your problem is likely a failing ECM. That would get you odd behaviors and now the lack of code reading. You might want to hunt up a scan tool that can do OBDI The Snap-On MT2500 is a good one for that. That would tell you much more than trying to read flash codes.
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Sunday, March 30th, 2025 AT 5:31 PM
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Here is some photos from underneath the truck, a sensor on the block and the other speaks for itself. How many things do I need to fix and could this be the problem??
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Thursday, April 3rd, 2025 AT 6:30 PM
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I got the crankshaft sensor out and it was filthy, I cleaned it, and bench tested it and got a small reading from it but the problem is I think between the dirt and the messed-up wiring as you seen in the video that that was my problem. I have to put it back on and put fluid in that I lost, and then do I have to reset the timing or go straight to trying to crank?
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Friday, April 4th, 2025 AT 7:48 AM
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If you are using the same sensor there is no relearn, that is used when you change sensors.
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Friday, April 4th, 2025 AT 3:55 PM
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I put the cleaned crankshaft sensor back on and still no change. I didn't mess with the other sensor and wonder if I should take it off and clean it? I included a picture of the one in question. I don't understand because at one point the truck actually did turn over and crank for a moment (I sent a video remember?) So it has to be something I did wrong between them and now. The codes are back on the dash, and it just continues to flash 12. Any thoughts?
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Thursday, April 10th, 2025 AT 8:13 AM
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Flash 12 just means it hasn't stored a code. If it was mine, I'd start at the basics. You know it turns over, so that's okay, you had it running before so it should have compression and be in time. So that leaves spark or fuel as the likely culprits. With the way it has progressed as it is getting worse, I would look at the PCM itself as being the item that is failing. It could be as simple as a bad capacitor in the PCM that shuts off fuel or ignition as soon as it heats up. I would probably proceed by using an OBD I scan tool like a SO MT2500 or OTC Genisys to watch the live data from the sensors that it can show and see if there is something there that gives a clue.
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Thursday, April 10th, 2025 AT 12:02 PM
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While I am waiting for my friend to bring the equipment you suggested over, I've been tidying up and double-checking everything thing. I only have a couple of questions I forgot about and while they might not be important, I'd still like the knowledge so one is this ground wire (I'm guessing) that is located drivers' side where the fuel tank is, and it appears one end is missing the nut. I've included photos, does this go to the fuel pump and if so, could it keep the motor not cranking? I heard the pump when I ran the bypass as you suggested. Also, the other photo is of the top of the gas tank that I just included because I had it. Again, thank you for your help.
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Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 AT 5:07 AM
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While I am waiting for my friend to bring the equipment you suggested over, I've been tidy up and double checking everything thing. I only have a couple of questions I forgot about and while they might not be important I'd still like the knowledge so one is this ground wire(, I'm guessing) that is located drivers side where the fuel tank is & it appears one end is missing the nut. I've included photos, does this go to the fuel pump and if so could it keep the motor not cranking? I heard the pump when I ran the bypass as you suggested. Also the other photo is of the top of the gas tank that and I just included it because I had it. Again thank you for your help.
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Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 AT 5:07 AM
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That would be a self-tapping bolt. If you were to look at a new one, it would be tapered and have a triangular profile at the tip. Tons of them used on vehicles.
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Tuesday, April 15th, 2025 AT 9:35 AM

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