Engine cranks but does not start?

Tiny
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  • 2009 HONDA ACCORD
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 130,000 MILES
Car wouldn't start but cranks. Transmission/starter.
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Wednesday, November 23rd, 2022 AT 5:16 AM

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Tiny
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The sound it makes.
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Wednesday, November 23rd, 2022 AT 5:17 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

I do hear a rattling noise when you release the starter. Is that what you are referring to? Did the no-start happen all at once? Is the noise something new since the no-start happened?

As far as the no-start, we need to narrow down possible causes.

In most cases, a crank no start is either an ignition-related issue or fuel related issue. Also, a failed timing belt can also cause this.

Here is what I need you to try. First, see if the engine starts if you use starting fluid. If it does and then stalls, we know it is a fuel-related issue. If there is no change, then suspect an ignition-related issue.

At that point, I will need you to check for spark to the plugs.

Here is a link that explains how that is done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-for-ignition-spark

Also, here is a link you may find of interest and helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-not-running-advanced

Take care and Happy Thanksgiving.

Joe
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Wednesday, November 23rd, 2022 AT 9:05 PM
Tiny
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Yes, so my car started making like a tractor noise at low speeds and goes away when I speed up. They told me my timing belt went bad. And a week later the car didn't start. Since u just confirmed its the timing belt, could you help send me what I need to buy for the parts? Either names or links to eBay. I'm not sure if I need just the belt, the kit, or also a belt tensioner. Let me know thank you so much.
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Thursday, November 24th, 2022 AT 10:12 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

This engine has a timing chain and not a belt. At 130K, it shouldn't be a problem. If it was a belt, yes, that could be the issue, but in this case, I don't think it is the issue. Also, all Honda engines except a couple of v6 engines are interference engines. If the chain breaks, it can cause internal damage to the engine. But I don't think that is the case. Listening to it crank in your video, it doesn't sound like a compression or timing issue.

The replacement of the timing chains is a big job on this vehicle, so I suggest we confirm that is the likely cause. Were you able to perform the tests I mentioned above? Also, can you tell where approx on the engine that noise comes from? Also, I need to know if this has a PZEV engine. The procedures are different.

I will be happy to help you replace the chains and components, but I don't want you to take things apart to find that isn't the cause. Try the tests I mentioned above and let me know the results. Also, if you have a scan tool, check for codes.

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, November 24th, 2022 AT 7:21 PM
Tiny
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Is it possible for me to call you and you can show me what to do?
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Saturday, November 26th, 2022 AT 11:06 AM
Tiny
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Saturday, November 26th, 2022 AT 12:10 PM
Tiny
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Hi:

I would be happy to help, but the policy is everything has to stay online. I hope you understand.

However, I can help you this was also. I listened to your video. I think you are hearing the top of a piston hitting a valve. I can't be certain, but that is what it sounds like.

In this case, we have two ways it can be checked. First, you could use a borescope camera. If you remove the spark plugs, you can place the camera into the cylinders and see if there is evidence they are hitting. Or, you can perform a compression test. If I am correct, I feel you will find no compression on one or more of the cylinders.

Here is a link that explains how to perform a compression test. You will need a compression gauge, but most parts stores will lend one to you free of charge.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

At this point, this is what I feel needs done to confirm what I'm saying is the cause. If it is, we need to remove the cylinder head and see if it can be salvaged.

Let me know. If you have any questions, let me know.

Take care,

Joe
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Saturday, November 26th, 2022 AT 8:34 PM

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