2006 Mitsubishi Outlander Car just died without any warning

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2006 Mitsubishi Outlander 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 105000 miles

My wife's outlander just died on her while she was driving without any warning and now it will not start. Please help me with this.

Some things I know:

1.) It is not the timing belt, I checked it and it is not broken.

2.) The fuel pump is working fine and gas is getting to the motor. I made sure by disconnecting the line where it enters the motor and turned it over a few times. (Plenty of gas.)

Please help me with this problem as there are no repair shops within three hours from me that know anything about Mitsubishi.

Thanks,

Chris R.

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Friday, July 2nd, 2010 AT 12:17 PM

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Hi Chris,

Thank you for the donation.

Since fuel is available, then next ting you should check would be the sparks.

At bottom of post there is a " First Things To Check" link. Click it for an idea what to look for. Let me know what you find.

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Friday, July 2nd, 2010 AT 1:43 PM
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Thank you, I checked for spark right after I made this post and their appears to be no spark coming from the spark plug wires. I checked all for to make sure it was not just one. What next?

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Friday, July 2nd, 2010 AT 1:58 PM
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If sparks are not present, it could be faulty ignition coils, cam or crankshaft sensors.

If you have a scanner, try to retrieve for trouble codes.

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Friday, July 2nd, 2010 AT 2:11 PM
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I think that I am going to have to get a scanner. Sounds like the thing to do anyway.

The coils are on top of each spark plug individually aren't they? If so, I disconnected the wires from each coil that leads to the spark plugs and there appears to be no spark going into each coil.

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Friday, July 2nd, 2010 AT 3:21 PM
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Yes, the coils sparks individually. No sparks to all coils would eliminate the coils as possible causes. I would suggest checking the cam or crank sensors.

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Saturday, July 3rd, 2010 AT 9:49 AM
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Ok, so I got a pocket scanner and it read 0 codes. Now what?

I guess I will find out where the camshaft sensor is and see if I can get it checked.

Chris R.

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Saturday, July 3rd, 2010 AT 3:45 PM
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Here are the location of the sensors.
I have sent the diagnostic files to your email as they are too large to be printed here. Let me know if they arrive safely.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_RemovalCamSensor06OutlanderFig7_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_RemovalCrankSensor06OutlanderFig8_1.jpg

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Saturday, July 3rd, 2010 AT 11:08 PM
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Iseem to be having trouble sending the files. Do you have an alternate email account that I can use?

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Saturday, July 3rd, 2010 AT 11:39 PM
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I think I have it traced back down to the cam sensor but I will not know for sure until I replace it. It is a special order part so I will not have it for a few days.

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Tuesday, July 6th, 2010 AT 3:27 PM
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Keep me posted of the outcome.

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Wednesday, July 7th, 2010 AT 10:23 AM
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Ok, so obviously I have done something wrong here as I have replaced the camshaft position sensor and the car still will not start.

What I know is, I have followed the cam position sensor diagnostic that you sent me and I have now replaced the sensor itself.

I have battery positive voltage at terminal 3. (Harness side)

I have 5 volts at terminal 2 with key on. (Harness side)

I have continuity of less than 2 ohms at terminal 1. (Harness side.)

I guess I am now moving on to the crankshaft sensor. Any more advice would be much appreciated.

Chris

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 10:00 AM
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Have you confirmed that there are no sparks?

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 10:34 AM
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Yes I am pretty sure that I did this correctly as the tutorial that I found did not specificaly deal with a vehicle that has individual coils for each plug like mine has.

Also, I removed the timing belt case since my last post and took the crankshaft sensor off.

My timing belt has teeth missing all around the crankshaft pulley. Is this typical of when a sensor goes out?

Chris

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 12:27 PM
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That is very bad news. The timing belt has given way and hopefully the engine has not been damaged.

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 3:08 PM
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Does this mean that more than likely I just need to replace the belt and then check the valves and stuff?

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 3:23 PM
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Yes, the timing belt has to be replaced and you need to check the valves to ensure that they have not been damaged.

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Friday, July 9th, 2010 AT 4:19 PM
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Well, I finally got the timing belt replaced and tried to start the car and had no luck.

I had real problems finding out where the timing mark was on the crankshaft side as it looks nothing like the descriptions and pictures that I have in the service manual. The only real identifying mark that I could find was a half circle cutout on the crankshaft/camshaft sprocket, right to the left of the key that holds the pulley in place. After many conversations with very unhelpful repair people, that is the mark I went with. (Hope that it is right.)

When the vehicle did not start, I decided to run a scan again and you will never guess what code came up. It was a camshaft sensor malfunction code!

So, I am now waiting for the new camshaft sensor to come in tomorrow and then I will replace it again.

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Thursday, July 15th, 2010 AT 11:01 PM
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You should have come back here if you require additional assistance.

Check if the following diagrams are helpful.


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig29_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig41_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig42_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_TimingBelt06OutlanderFig43_1.jpg



If the timing had been installed incorrectly, it can cause the cam sensor to show an error too.

Did you check the valve clearances? That is to ensure the valves had not been damaged due to the timing belt failing.

Intake is 0.11 mm ( 0.004 in)
Exhausr is 0.20 mm ( 0.008 in)

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Friday, July 16th, 2010 AT 7:04 AM
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This is the problem, in figure 42 (the crankshaft figure.) It says "aligning timing mark on cranckshaft sprocket with timing mark on (?) Case."

On my vehicle there is no mark on the sprocket itself except that half moon cutout that I reffered to earlier.

There is another hole drilled into the angle sensing blade that is behind the cranckshaft sprocket but no other marks to go by.

I finally got a mitsubishi parts guy to tell me that the half circle shaped mark in the sprocket would be the right mark but it was very clear that he did not really know for sure.

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Friday, July 16th, 2010 AT 8:58 AM
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The half moon cut is the correct mark for the crankshaft. To reconfirm, you can use the timing mark on the pulley and the timing cover to verify.

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Friday, July 16th, 2010 AT 9:11 AM

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