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I just found this on an online forum. So perhaps I need a new timing set.
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 11:02 AM
Tiny
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Which gear? The one on the crank?
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 11:04 AM
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Okay.
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 11:04 AM
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Did you replace the chain and gears or are they the old ones?

Roy
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 3:25 PM
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All of them are new except the crank and balance shaft gears because those two don’t come off. But I fixed it. Apparently my number one piston was not 100% at top dead center. It was at like 99.7%. So, I rotated it just slightly and now everything fits.
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 4:35 PM
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Hi,

That's good to hear. I'm glad you got it figured out. If possible, let me know how things progress for you.

Take care,

Joe
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Thursday, September 30th, 2021 AT 6:47 PM
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Good find.

We are always here if you have any further questions.

Roy
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Friday, October 1st, 2021 AT 5:25 AM
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There’s one black link on each chain and I’m assuming it’s there for a reason as a timing mark or something. Where is that black link supposed to sit?
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Friday, October 1st, 2021 AT 8:58 AM
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When you set the initial set up for the chain, it or they will go on the timing marks. After you rotate the motor, they will not line up at any other time.

Roy
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Friday, October 1st, 2021 AT 9:36 AM
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What are these in my hand? They came with the rear jackshaft plug.
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Thursday, October 7th, 2021 AT 10:23 AM
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Hi,

To the best of my knowledge, there was an issue with the 4.0L pre-2003 where oil would drain too fast and much from the cylinder heads. The parts in your hand were used to restrict how quickly they drained.

The threaded plug was used to stop oil flow in one of the oil galleries, and the thing that looks like a candle was used to restrict the drain in the cylinder head.

If you look below, that is the only thing we could find related to these parts. Also, note that they appear to come in all timing chain kits for the 4.0L, but they all don't require their use.

If nothing was found when you took things apart, chances are it isn't required on this vehicle.

Let me know if this helps.

Take care,

Joe

See attached pic.
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Thursday, October 7th, 2021 AT 6:51 PM
Tiny
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Yeah, it came in my timing set in a bag with my rear jackshaft plug but I have a 2003 and didn’t see either when I took it apart. Thanks, that for sure helps a lot. I could not figure it out. I messed up, though. Didn’t damage my crank threads in the removal of my harmonic balancer, but I sure did when trying to hold the crank in place when I was tightening the rear jackshaft bolt. I can use Helicoil, right? If so, do you know what size is required for the crank threads?
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Thursday, October 7th, 2021 AT 7:55 PM
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Are you able to use a clean-out tap? If the threads are damaged, it will repair them. However, I don't know how bad they are. As far as the size, that is going to be based on the side you drill it to. What to do is this. Take the bolt with you and ask what size drill you should use to clean out the old threads so you can use a Helicoil. Also, when you install the Helicoil, use Loctite so it doesn't come loose. It would be a good idea to use it on the bolt as well.

Make sure to get a size that is closest to the original size.

Let me know if I can do anything to help.

Take care,

Joe
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Thursday, October 7th, 2021 AT 8:27 PM
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I fixed it. I just put the old bolt in and tightened it. It worked. Can you show me what the timing cover and water pump bolts look like?
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Friday, October 8th, 2021 AT 11:20 PM
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Hi,

I don't have actual pics of the bolts. However, there are 12 of them that hold the water pump on. I attached a pic below showing what I have. Also, if I recall, there will be a few longer than the others.

The timing chain cover bolts will be smaller in diameter and shorter in length.

I hope this helps.

Joe
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Saturday, October 9th, 2021 AT 5:52 PM
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I have the water pump bolts already; it’s just the timing cover bolts that I cannot figure out.
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Saturday, October 9th, 2021 AT 11:29 PM
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Hi,

I found a pic on eBay showing the bolts for the timing cover. Take a look at the picture and let me know if that helps.

Joe
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Sunday, October 10th, 2021 AT 7:30 PM
Tiny
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Thank you. And when timing the roller followers aren’t supposed to be in, right? If so, how do I install them after timing?
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Thursday, October 14th, 2021 AT 10:57 AM
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Hi,

They have to be installed before you install the camshafts. They are under it and can't be installed after the timing chain has been attached and set.

Let me know if I can help.

Joe
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Thursday, October 14th, 2021 AT 5:36 PM
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So the Ford tool that compresses the valve springs is only to remove them?
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Thursday, October 14th, 2021 AT 10:06 PM

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