Code P1330, replaced CAM and crankshaft sensor, still no start

Tiny
BRANDON ANTHONY2
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  • 2005 KIA SORENTO
  • 3.5L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 256,000 MILES
Stop at store, got back in tried to crank it, tried cranking it up acted like it wanted to fire up, sounded like a couple hard hits as cranked it, after sitting for a bit it cranked right up. On way home it shut off. Next day changed cam sensor and fired right, and it did better and had more power as I drove it 3 or 4 times. Then the 4th or 5th time I drove it was at a stop light as I gave it gas it shut off as I drove under light, couldn't get it to crank back. Only only turned over but wouldn't start. Got it back home and used scan tool and it gave a P1330 code, and I changed crankshaft sensor and now it still will not start and both sensor's looked like needed to be changed. I still need to scan again for codes again tomorrow. Do you have any ideas what it could be from keeping it from starting?
Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 AT 10:38 PM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

There was a TSB on the code which I posted below for you.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

When you crank the engine, does the tachometer move up a little showing RPM? That will tell me if the crank sensor is working.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

Can you hear the fuel pump run? I would check the fuel pressure to be sure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

Fuel Pressure Specifications

With Fuel Pressure Regulator vacuum hose disconnected .................... 323 - 333 kPa (46.9 - 48.3 psi)
With Fuel Pressure Regulator vacuum hose connected .................... 262 kPa (38 psi)

I would also check the compression to be sure the valve timing is correct. You need 140-160.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-timing-belt-works

Roy

GROUP
Engine

NUMBER
068

MODEL
(BL) 03-06MY, (GQ) 02-05MY
(MS) 01-06MY, (GH) 04-06MY

DATE
May 2010

SUBJECT:
INTERMITTENT MIL ON WITH NO FAULT CODE STORED -

INFORMATION ABOUT DTC P1330

This bulletin provides information relating to Sorento (BL) 3.5L 2003-2006MY Sedona (GQ) 3.5L 2002-2005MY, Optima (MS) 2.4L 2001-2006MY, Amanti (GH) 3.5L 2004-2006MY vehicles. In affected vehicles an intermittent short to ground in a circuit only intended for testing purposes may cause the MIL to illuminate and a DTC P1330 (Spark Timing Adjust) to be stored. As soon as the fault disappears the MIL may turn off and the fault code can also be immediately erased by the engine management system making it hard to diagnose the concern.

DTC P1330 is intended to be triggered when specific terminals in the Multi-purpose Data Link/Check connector are grounded. When these terminals are grounded a default control mode is temporarily activated in which the spark timing is fixed. This function is intended to only be used during certain checks on the vehicle assembly line. To ensure that vehicles do not leave the assembly plant in this (spark timing fixed) condition a P1330 DTC will set and illuminate the MIL whenever this function is active. However reports from in-use vehicles have indicated that the same condition can occur when these terminals and/or associated wiring are shorted to ground as a result of an electrical fault thus setting the P1330 code and illuminating the MIL.

When diagnosing a complaint of (intermittent) MIL illumination with no DTCs present first check for freeze frame data. If the cause was due to a fault detected by the DTC P1330 logic freeze frame data should still be available and indicate that P1330 was the DTC that caused the freeze frame data to be stored. To diagnose and repair a P1330 fault inspect related connectors or wiring harness and repair as necessary following the instructions in this bulletin.

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NOTICE

File Under: Engine

Data Link/Check Connector Terminal and Connector Inspection:

1.Turn Ignition off

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2.Thoroughly check the connector terminals for corrosion bending, contamination, deterioration or damage If any problem is found, repair or replace connector

Control Module Wiring Harness Inspection:

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1.Disconnect engine control module connector (or powertrain control module or engine/transaxle control module connector as indicated in the following diagrams)

2.Measure resistance between identified terminal of Data Link/Check connector and chassis ground and between identified terminal of wiring harness side of each control module and chassis ground.

3.If the measured resistance is below 1000 Ohms the harness is shorted to ground. Repair or replace the harness or additional connectors in the circuit as necessary.

4.Apply dielectric grease before reconnecting.

Verification After Repair:

1.Turn ignition On.

2.Using Kia GDS Scan tool; clear DTC(s) and freeze frame data.

3.Start vehicle and let idle for 2 to 3 minutes.

4.Check the MIL and DTC/freeze frame data once again. Make sure MIL is not illuminated and that the P1330 DTC and associated freeze frame data are not stored.

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Wednesday, November 4th, 2020 AT 4:33 AM

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