Engine cranks but does not start

Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 2015 NISSAN FRONTIER
  • 4.0L
  • V6
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 70,000 MILES
Truck listed above is a 2016. Wondering if Elkgrove65 ever found a solution to this problem.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/05-frontier-nismo-cranks-but-wont-start-intermittently
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 8:51 AM

11 Replies

Tiny
STEVE W.
  • MECHANIC
  • 12,959 POSTS
Hard to say, there are many times where someone finds the problem but never returns with any updates. It is one of the problems with sites like this, cliffhangers abound.
Do you have a similar problem?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 9:00 AM
Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 8 POSTS
Yes, exact same problem.
Has happened about four times over the last year.
It will spin (turn over) but not start. Wait a few minutes, then is starts.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 9:15 AM
Tiny
STEVE W.
  • MECHANIC
  • 12,959 POSTS
Okay, what testing have you done to it if any? That behavior could be many things from an intermittent fuel pump relay to a bad connection at the ignition module. Could you give any more information as to any common things that happen when it refuses to start? Like it does it after it sets for a day, or it does it when it's driven hard? That way we can start with a clean slate.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
-1
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 1:53 PM
Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 8 POSTS
I haven't done any troubleshooting since it's so intermittent.

Connections at the battery are clean and tight.

It has happened during different scenarios. Twice after being driven normally for about 30 minutes and parked for about 20 minutes. Another time it happened first thing in the morning. No abnormal weather conditions for either scenario. Once I recall it was a sunny South Louisiana day with temperatures in the 90's and most recently it was 40 degrees in the morning.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
+1
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 2:10 PM
Tiny
STEVE W.
  • MECHANIC
  • 12,959 POSTS
So, it will crank over good but doesn't start, how long do you need to wait until it starts?
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 2:22 PM
Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 8 POSTS
2-3 minutes.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 2:44 PM
Tiny
KASEKENNY
  • MECHANIC
  • 18,907 POSTS
Just to jump in on this because I saw your other thread on this, and I had some ideas but don't want to take over from Steve W.

Since this is so intermittent it is going to be hard to test until it starts doing it more but when this is cranking but not starting it would be helpful to know what the fuel pressure is. Here is a guide that will help with testing this:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

However, what I am suspecting because I have seen other Frontiers with fuel pump issues that at times, it does not build enough pressure to start the engine. Then after a minute or two you cycle the key, and it builds the pressure.

So, the thought on this is that it is not the waiting but the cycling of the key that gets the engine to start.

So, one way to test this is the next time it acts up and cranks but does not start. Turn the key completely off and then to the on position and wait 3 seconds. Then do it again. Then try to start.

What you are doing is priming the fuel system and if it fails to start the first time but then you cycle the key and prime it again and it starts then the pump is starting to fail.

Otherwise, you are going to have to tape the fuel pressure gauge to the windshield and wait for this to happen again to see what the pressure is when it acts up.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 3:28 PM
Tiny
STEVE W.
  • MECHANIC
  • 12,959 POSTS
Jump in anytime. That was why I asked about the time, was thinking the same thing. Either not priming or the relay is sticking. The test above should help. The pump relay activates for three seconds at initial key on and then once it sees a crankshaft signal showing the engine is running at above a set speed it turns the relay on and keeps the engine running.
The description sounds like it is losing pressure rapidly.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Monday, March 14th, 2022 AT 5:12 PM
Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 8 POSTS
I will try the key cycle. May be another 3-6 months before I experience it again.

One more thing. I recall the engine spinning faster when the issue occurs. Almost as if it lost compression.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, March 16th, 2022 AT 6:33 AM
Tiny
STEVE W.
  • MECHANIC
  • 12,959 POSTS
That is one of the problems with intermittent faults, waiting until they happen. I would still do the pressure tests, that would give you an idea of the pumps condition at least. Let us know what happens please.
Cannot think of anything that would make it spin faster, compression isn't going to go away like that. It could be a high draw from the fuel pump but I wouldn't think you would see any cranking difference unless it's a bad ground from the battery to the chassis causing it. However if that was the case I would expect to see other issues like dim lighting or other obvious clues.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Wednesday, March 16th, 2022 AT 12:23 PM
Tiny
DTHEVIS
  • MEMBER
  • 8 POSTS
Thanks for the feedback - I'll be in touch.
Was this
answer
helpful?
Yes
No
Thursday, March 17th, 2022 AT 12:39 PM

Please login or register to post a reply.

Sponsored links