Turns over but will not run

Tiny
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Okay, I did the jumper wire and it sprays really good out of the filter, with the fuel line disconnected. But place the fuel line back on the filter, nothing comes out of the line to the fuel rail. Going to go buy some trimmer plastic cord to run thru the line to see if there is a blockage in the line.
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Sunday, March 29th, 2020 AT 1:32 PM
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Sounds like a plan, keep us informed and remember to wash your hands.
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Sunday, March 29th, 2020 AT 4:18 PM
Tiny
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Thank you, I have never remember washing my hands like nowadays. Pretty crazy time to be alive. Okay, now I am really confused. I got some weed whacker trimmer line. The connection at the fuel filter is a no go as it comes out of the filter and has a plastic 90 degree bend in the line. From the front of the car I can get about two feet in and can not get it to go any farther. However not sure that it is blocked, as using my air compressor and blowing air through the line the air comes out just fine. What the mind blowing part of it is that with the line disconnected at the fuel filter the gas comes spraying out. But when it is hooked up to the filter ( meaning the fuel line attached to filter), nothing comes out of the line at the fuel rail. As much fuel is coming out at the filter it should be showering all over the engine compartment. I can not understand why. I would have felt better getting that plastic line farther in the fuel line. That being said, the air coming thru the line with the compressor makes not sense at all. Using the jumper wire and having the pump constantly, that fuel should be getting to the fuel rail. I have a question, is there something attached to the fuel line any where between the fuel filter and the front of the car? Meaning like a sensor or gate, that would require the computer to read it in order to open up when the fuel pump is running?
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Monday, March 30th, 2020 AT 12:01 AM
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Nothing in the line that I remember, Will the air go through the line in both directions?
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Monday, March 30th, 2020 AT 7:44 AM
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It only blew air from the tank area to the front. I can try to go from the front to the back tomorrow.
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Monday, March 30th, 2020 AT 6:30 PM
Tiny
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This gets stranger by the minute. I had my son at the engine side of fuel line and not expecting any fuel, it shot fuel all over the inside of car. That is going to smell for a long time. I am just finishing lunch, after lunch will go and blow air now towards the front of car, then do the jumper wire and see if it will go to front of car now and as much as blowing back to tank.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 2:01 PM
Tiny
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Well that was a nasty surprise, but the bigger question, did your son laugh? LOL You might be able to get rid of the smell if you used an ozone generator but I'm not sure I would want to use one with gas fumes in the air. You could try dumping a bunch of lightweight kitty litter in there and see if it will pull some of it out, then shampoo the interior real well. Or once you get it running again pay a detail shop to clean it.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 5:32 PM
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For fuel to spray into the car, which end of the line were you blowing air through?
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 5:41 PM
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From the front, there was enough gas in the line while pumping, but it just does not come out the line by the rail.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 6:14 PM
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When I blew from the front whatever was in the line went in the back of the car.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 6:14 PM
Tiny
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I spent some of the afternoon blowing air back and forth through the line. Then attach the line back to the filter, then I used the jumper wire to pump fuel for over a full 3 minutes and only got about a teaspoon of fuel up at the end of the fuel line by the fuel rail. As much fuel that comes out of the fuel filter should be coming out of the line. I am considering replacing the fuel line to rule out a blockage of some kind. But the amount of air that goes through it should have plenty up front. This is driving me nuts, makes no sense.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 6:21 PM
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Okay, take a pressure gauge and rig up a connection to the filter outlet. Power up the pump and see what pressure you have right at the pump. It is possible that you got a defective pump and as soon as any stress is on it to pump it stops making pressure. I have also seen them come apart at the line inside the tank and act the same way.
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2020 AT 7:11 PM
Tiny
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I can see that is possible if the line was attached to the fuel rail that a defective pump could quit pumping under pressure. Makes perfect sense. With it being free of pressure and the line open (not block) it would still not make the the 8 to 10 foot to the front? I will see about rigging up a gauge system to see if I can get a reading of some kind.
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Wednesday, April 1st, 2020 AT 10:38 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Have you had any luck checking the pressure?

Joe
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 AT 6:29 PM
Tiny
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It's possible that even with an open line there is enough restriction that it cannot push fuel through. The other possibility is that there is something acting like a valve in the line, a piece of plastic or debris that moves with the air pressure and it's prevented from coming out by the fitting. That's about the only reason I can think of other than something being wrong with the pump assembly itself which a pressure test should show.
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2020 AT 6:57 PM
Tiny
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Joe, I am not to mechanically inclined to do much more than what a book or video shows me online. I tried to figure out a way but to afraid to mess up the outlet on the filter canister. I was too afraid to mess up the filter canister and last week end chickened out removing it fully. That being said I and everyone I talk to in my family feels that the problem has to lie in the filter side of the tank. So this weekend I am planning on jumping in head first so to speak and tear it all down according to the pics and directions you sent me to see and make sure everything looks okay there. Then I am also going to get a new filter and o rings and go through that again to make sure the big o-ring is working. I will be in touch.
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Friday, April 3rd, 2020 AT 3:22 AM
Tiny
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Steve, that makes sense what you are saying about the line. After I do what I described in my last post I am going to keep blowing both front and back on the line for a good long time to see if something may blow out of the line eventually. Will do that on Saturday and will let you and Joe know if I was successful, or still banging my head on a wall.
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Friday, April 3rd, 2020 AT 3:25 AM
Tiny
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Sounds like a plan. I have to be honest, I have a feeling (like Steve mentioned) we are going to find the pump itself is bad, but what you are doing will help determine it.

Don't be worried when doing the work. What is the worst case that could happen?

Take care and let us know what you find.

Joe
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Friday, April 3rd, 2020 AT 11:16 AM

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