Turns over but will not run

Tiny
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Joe, thank you very much, just waiting on Amazon now, I will let you know.
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Tuesday, February 25th, 2020 AT 8:06 PM
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You are very welcome. I do have one other question You are sure the o-rings weren't damaged and were properly installed, correct? Also, let me know if you tried disconnecting both sides of the fuel supply to see if air flows through it.

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Joe
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Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 AT 5:07 PM
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Joe, that was my first thought was to pop the fuel filter canister apart to make sure I had all of them in place and they were okay. I have not yet tried blowing air through the fuel line yet. Was gonna get a new pump and try that first. Just waiting on refund from Amazon to get one local, should be any time soon. I should have done that in the first place.
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Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 AT 7:46 PM
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Before you reinstall a new pump, try blowing through the line to make sure there are no restrictions. I would hate to see you go through this again. Also, buying online is becoming really popular, so you are no different. Although a parts store may be a few dollars more, it's still easier if there is a problem. Trust me. I learned the hard way. LOL

Take care and when you get a chance, let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, February 26th, 2020 AT 8:12 PM
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Joe, that would be a good idea to make sure there is no line blockage. I will let you know when I have more news.
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Thursday, February 27th, 2020 AT 12:06 AM
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I will watch for your reply. Also, make sure the fuel line is disconnected at both ends.

Take care and good luck.
Joe
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Thursday, February 27th, 2020 AT 4:45 PM
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Thank you, will let you know.
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Thursday, February 27th, 2020 AT 4:54 PM
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Hi,

Your thread kicked back to active, so I grabbed it to see if you had any luck.

Let me know.
Joe
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Sunday, March 1st, 2020 AT 6:15 PM
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Joe, Still waiting to be refunded from Amazon, tracking shows they received the pump last Wednesday, but no credit to my account. I will let you know when I get a new pump to see if I get fuel to spray out of the filter more than a waterfall. Getting very anxious to get a new pump to get back to working on the coop. Thank you for keeping the thread going.
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Sunday, March 1st, 2020 AT 6:56 PM
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Not a problem. I didn't want to lose this one. LOL Take care and let me know when you get updates.

Joe
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Sunday, March 1st, 2020 AT 7:52 PM
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Joe, back to square one on this one. Finally got refunded by Amazon. Got a new pump from O'Rielly's and same thing is happening. Just a trickle of fuel from the output on the fuel filter. Same as the last pump. Now providing this pump is good (maybe even the last pump) not sure where to go from here. I have not touched blowing air through the fuel line thinking that it is pointless at this point sense there is little to no pressure. What (in my opinion) is not good on this car is that the fuel filter is a massive canister with a ton of stuff attached to it that you cannot really see or check out sense it all stays in the tank. I have no idea what could be wrong on the filter end of this car that could keep from letting it have full pressure. Wish they would have just put an in line little fuel filter on it. That being said I am all out of ideas at this point in time, almost a month later and no results after all the work. I am just ranting at this point. If you have any other ideas I am all ears.
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Wednesday, March 4th, 2020 AT 1:52 PM
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Hi,

We'll figure this out. Hang in there. I really would like you to see if you can blow air through the supply hose. If you can, confirm there is 12v to the white / blue wire to the pump (at the pump). If there is, then I need you to check resistance in the brown wire which is ground. Basically, you are checking continuity to ground via the ohms setting on your multi meter. That will tell us if there is excessive resistance in the wire which could limit power flow.

I attached a pic below of the wiring. Check that. Here are a couple links you may find helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Also, check both fuses in the pic. I realize you are getting power, but if the control module fuse is blown, that could be an issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

Take care and let me know.
Joe

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Wednesday, March 4th, 2020 AT 6:15 PM
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Joe, I am going to have the store replace the fuel pump for another just to totally rule out a bad pump. Will let you know after that and checking the wiring if it starts.
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Friday, March 6th, 2020 AT 2:06 PM
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Sounds good. I will watch for your reply.

Take care and stay in touch.

Joe
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Friday, March 6th, 2020 AT 10:58 PM
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Joe, sorry for the delay, it has been crazy in my town due to this virus scare. I replaced the fuel pump and now it comes out of the filter more than a waterfall. It cones out like a water hose but nowhere near 50lbs. Can there be an issue with anything on the filter side? I picked up a haynes manual to try to help with this issue and it says there is a sensor on the fuel filter side. I took the retaining ring off, I tried to see where the sensor was but it is super cramped in that area. Just wonder what that sensor is and what it does on the filter side. I am beginning to wonder if there is a problem there. I did remove the fuel line off the fuel rail, and blew thru the line from the filter line and that seems to be clear. That is where I am at right at this moment.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2020 AT 12:47 AM
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Have you put it together and rechecked pressure? As far as the filter, the only thing I can think of that can cause an issue is if one of the o-rings is not installed correctly.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, March 15th, 2020 AT 5:03 PM
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Joe, after putting it all back together there is no fuel getting to the fuel rail to even show on gauge. I will attempt to take the filter apart and make sure all is well with the o-rings.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2020 AT 10:47 PM
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The only reason I ask about the filter is that there is some kind of electric device on the filter housing, a float on the filter housing, and another rod that looks like a float rod to goes somewhere towards back of gas tank. Problem is that I just can not tell if it is all the way it should be. It would be worth opening it up again just to make sure all is intact including all 3 o-rings.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2020 AT 10:58 PM
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Hi,

Something is blocking the fuel if you are getting nothing. I need you to check something for me. I need to know the build date of the vehicle because there are two different designs. I believe the rod you are referring to is the level sensor. I attached a picture. Tell me if that is what you are seeing.

Now, check on the door or door frame to see if you can locate a build date. Something is different between the two and looking through the directions, I can't tell exactly what it is.

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, March 16th, 2020 AT 7:41 AM
Tiny
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Joe, looks as if the build date is 3/05 or March 2005. Looking at that drawing that is exactly it. Also on mine the float with the gauge contacts the float wire/metal rod points towards the passenger side of car and that level rod points to the back of gas tank. Just curious if it should match the drawing?
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Monday, March 16th, 2020 AT 5:00 PM

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