CODE P2302 NO FIRE FROM COIL #1 AND #4

  • Tiny
  • david i
  • 2004 Dodge Caravan
  • 150,000 miles

Changed crank position sensor, changed coil pack, still no fire?

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 5:19 PM

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--What liter engine?

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 6:34 PM
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  • david i
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Its a 3.8

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 6:42 PM
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  • rasmataz
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Is this a distributor, direct ignition or coil on plugs ignition system?

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 7:29 PM
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The engine has a 6 coil pack pluged in to wiring harness, there are 4 pins on the plug. I think the coils 1&4 fire at the same time, what can I test? What controls the coil pack---

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 7:40 PM
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Check and test the camshaft position sensor-

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 8:01 PM
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How do you test, and where is it?

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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 9:10 PM
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WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!

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Thursday, October 13th, 2011 AT 3:05 PM
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Its located right front of engine-You test its resistances using a DVOM

The camshaft position sensor provides cylinder identification to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) (Fig. 3). The sensor generates pulses as groups of notches on the camshaft sprocket pass underneath it. The PCM keeps track of crankshaft rotation and identifies each cylinder by the pulses generated by the notches on the camshaft sprocket. Four crankshaft pulses follow each group of camshaft pulses. When the PCM receives 2 cam pulses followed by the long flat spot on the camshaft sprocket, it knows that the crankshaft timing marks for cylinder 1 are next (on driveplate). When the PCM receives one camshaft pulse after the long flat spot on the sprocket, cylinder number 2 crankshaft timing marks are next. After 3 camshaft pulses, the PCM knows cylinder 4 crankshaft timing marks follow. One camshaft pulse after the 3 pulses indicates cylinder 5. The 2 camshaft pulses after cylinder 5 signals cylinder 6 The PCM can synchronize on cylinders 1 or 4.
When metal aligns with the sensor, voltage goes low (less than 0.3 volts). When a notch aligns with the sensor, voltage switches high (5.0 volts). As a group of notches pass under the sensor, the voltage switches from low (metal) to high (notch) then back to low. The number of notches determine the amount of pulses. If available, an oscilloscope can display the square wave patterns of each timing event.
Top Dead Center (TDC) does not occur when notches on the camshaft sprocket pass below the sensor. TDC occurs after the camshaft pulse (or pulses) and after the 4 crankshaft pulses associated with the particular cylinder. The arrows and cylinder call outs on represent which cylinder the flat spot and notches identify, they do not indicate TDC position.

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Friday, October 14th, 2011 AT 8:00 PM

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