Transmission won't go into first, second or drive.

Tiny
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  • 2002 FORD F-150
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Truck shifts into reverse perfect but only reverse won't go into first, second or drive. Replaced the transmission filter, changed transmission fluid, took apart and cleaned the valve body. Still no fix.
Saturday, October 9th, 2021 AT 7:49 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Does the transmission shift into any forward gears? For example, if you place it in low 1, does it go into gear? Also, did this happen all at once?

Since you had the valve body out, then some of the fluid is new. However, was it very dirty prior to the service? Have you flushed the cooler lines?

I have a feeling it could be related to low line pressure. Let me know about the cooler lines.

Take care,

Joe
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Saturday, October 9th, 2021 AT 9:19 PM
Tiny
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No forward gears work. No at first it would shift into first and second and then when it should normally shift into third the engine would rev up and it wouldn't shift into third, after five or so minutes of driving it in second or it is running it would go out of gear and would only rev up. Would have to turn truck off and then crank it back up to get it to go into first and second. Now it doesn't shift into anything, but park reverse neutral. Have not flushed the cooler lines.
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Saturday, October 9th, 2021 AT 9:56 PM
Tiny
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I have seen that happen on vehicles with a plugged filter. When the engine is turned off, the debris drops into the pan, and the transmission works for a short time until it sucks the dirt back into the filter, but you already replaced the filter. I feel it is something to do with line pressure. The only part I'm not sure of at this point is this. Reverse takes the most pressure to operate and functions from the same clutch pack as first gear. It's referred to as the low/reverse clutch.

If I had your vehicle, I feel the first thing I would check is the line pressure. If it's low, we need to determine where the problem is.

Do me a favor. Please confirm if this has a 4.6V8 or a 5.4V8. Also, let me know the condition of the fluid and filter when you changed it.

If you look below, the attachments are the directions and pressures for testing line pressure. They are for the 4.6L V8. If that isn't the correct engine, let me know. The pressures appear to be different.

Let me know your thoughts and if you feel comfortable performing the test below. Hang in there. We'll figure this out together.

Take care,

Joe

See pics below.
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Sunday, October 10th, 2021 AT 6:52 PM
Tiny
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Checked line pressure all was good there. Before I changed the filter it was pretty bad took a while for fluids to come out the other side tried cleaning with gas but still didn't work. It's the 5.4l. My dad saying it could be the clutches for those gears are stripped out.
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Sunday, October 10th, 2021 AT 7:08 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

It certainly could be the clutches, but normally, you will notice them slipping before they completely fail.

If I had the truck for diagnostics, found good line pressure, the next thing I would do is flush the cooler. If the transmission fluid was extremely dirty, it could have been clutch material. So, your father is certainly thinking in the right direction. However, before I would pull the unit, I would flush the cooler.

Does this truck have an auxiliary cooler or is it just one through the radiator? I attached a pic below of the auxiliary cooler's location.

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, October 10th, 2021 AT 8:10 PM
Tiny
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Believe it's just the one through the radiator. Where I put the water in there a hose going to the radiator and another going down into the motor though it has a bad leak sitting on empty now. I'll look into that to make sure we are talking about the same thing.
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Sunday, October 10th, 2021 AT 8:41 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

It is very possible that the cooler is integral with the radiator, and you don't have the auxiliary cooler.

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, October 11th, 2021 AT 7:01 PM

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