High beams issue!

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12 volts on RD/blk #3 and RD/YEL on # 13 is just what we want. That tells the integration relay is good.

Now we get to plan "B". We need to run 2 "permanent" jumpers.
1- From the RD/BLK wire connected to term #3 on the integ relay to the RD/BLK wire attached to term 14 on the HL switch. Keeping in mind, this new jumper is in ADDITION TO, NOT IN PLACE OF, the wires that are already there. We don't want to CUT or TERMINATE any wires, just splice into them.

2-On terms #1 and #3 in the HL relay block. You already have these jumpered. We need to splice in a pernanent jumper in place of the one you have now. Again, we don't want to cut any wires. The permanent jumper is in addition to the existing. Once this is done, everything should work like it's supposed to.
Any questions or problems, I'll be watching the post.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2009 AT 6:18 PM
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Jump #2 will work OK but Jumping from red/black on the integration relay to the red/black on the H/L switch doesn't work. But when I jump to red/yellow on the H/L relay the lights work.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2009 AT 6:40 PM
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Ok, that means your integration relay is bad. You need to replace it. Dave said this may be the case and he's right. Once you replace the IR. Try the lights with the jumper OFF the rRD/Yel wire. If the lights still don't work, hook the wire up on the RD/BLK by Int relay term #3.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2009 AT 7:12 PM
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Mike.

To check the INT relay is BAD. JUMP a wire from RED/YELLOW terminal #13 @ H/L switch to RED/YELLOW terminal # 4 @ INT relay. Basically you are checking if the existing red/yellow on the car has a break in it?

Dave H

If the light's work with #13 @switch jumped to #4 on the INT relay then the INT relay is good after all and the problem is the RED/YELLOW wire. If the light's don't work. The INT relay is bad !
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Sunday, March 15th, 2009 AT 7:18 PM
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna wait till the morning when I have more daylight. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Let you know tomorrow.
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Sunday, March 15th, 2009 AT 7:35 PM
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Dave: You said to check the integration relay, jump the red/yellow #13 on switch to #4 red/yellow on integration relay plug. Are you sure you don't mean the #3 red/black wire on the integration relay? Because when I jump the red/yellow on the relay, I get nothing, but when I jump the red/black, the lights work fine.
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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 8:31 AM
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I want you to check if the INT relay is working .. so leave the red/black connected to INT relay and connected to the H/L relay ... jumper the red/yellow on INT relay to the red/yellow on the H/L switch ... basically you are replacing the red/yellow wire with your own wire ...leave the red/black wire from INT going to #3 on H/L relay ...

If the light's work with the RED/YELOW replaced by your own color wire and going through the INT relay then the INT relay is GOOD ..and the red/yellow wire is BAD ... if the light's do not work with your wire from switch to INT relay then the RELAY is BAD ..

Let me know


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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 1:29 PM
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Mike, I can answer Dave's question for you if it's ok. Dave and I had discussed this on another post and I'm sure he won't mind.
Dave's thought, which is valid, was maybe the open was between HL switch term #13 and integ relay term #4. This is a circuit you and I hadn't tested and it's possible there may had been a problem here, so it was worth testing. Apparently now, after your test, the circuit between HLS 13 and Int. R 4 is good.
Have you completed the 2 jumpers yet? Let me know.
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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 1:31 PM
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Thank's James .. yes, that is exactly what i was asking .. Mike .. if you have jumped red/yellow #13 on switch to red/yellow #4 on INT relay and the light's do not work .. then INT relay is bad ...

complete the jumpers as James has requested and let us know !!


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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 2:06 PM
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Hey guys: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, had to fix my great grandsons bed (most important things ist). Yes James I got the jumpers in( I installed a 15 amp in line fuse in the line from #13 to #3 just in case there's a short somewhere). Now the lights work, except for the parking lights. The parking lights and the inside dome light don't work, maybe they are tied into the integration relay. Well I guess I'll go hunt up a relay and see if that solves the problem. I'll let you guys know the results when I get one installed. Thanks a lot for putting up with me, talk to you later. Mike
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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 6:53 PM
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Hey Mike.

The side and tail light's DO also go through the INT relay ..green wire terminal #2 on H/L switch to terminal #1 on INT relay then terminal '#2 on INT relay green/red wire going to Tail Light relay behind the dash left side of steering wheel .. these light's are only HOT with key ON ... so find a HOT that only comes ON with ignition switch and jumper it to terminal #2 on H/L switch if you cannot find a INT relay ... hope this helps

P.S. I have just checked and the interior lights also go through the INT relay .. replace the relay .. and JOB DONE ....

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Dave's, thankfully, one up on me on the Int. relay and the jumper. Just, before you plug in the new relay be sure to remove the jumper. We don't need anymore problems.
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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 7:15 PM
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Yes, your exterior lights should be controlled by the Int. Relay. The interior lights, I'm not sure about being, I can't find a breakdown of the Int. Relay itself.
Let us know.
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Monday, March 16th, 2009 AT 7:15 PM
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Hi guys: Just thought I'd let you know. The integrater relay didn't fix problem.
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 1:12 PM
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Hey Mike.

Every problem you are having on the vehicle goes through the INT relay !! .. you have replaced the relay .. what is happening now ?


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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 2:18 PM
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Well I'm having problems with my alarm system now. Everything else is working with the jumpers in place so I'm ok there but when I tried to start the car up today it wouldn't start it just turned over and over. So I diconected my battery and rearmed the alarm and it started and ran for a few minutes and then shut down as if I turned the key off. So I turned the alarm switch off and after awile it started again. And it's been that way all day starting and stopping. I wonder if the alarm system could be tied into the light problem somehow? It's a factory alarn system.
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 4:52 PM
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Is the alarm system factory or aftermarket?
Do you have "remote start" on the car?
When the car dies, are you losing spark when you try to restart, and it won't?
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 5:12 PM
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Yes factory, No, Yes
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 5:14 PM
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Hey Mike.

Are you sure the vehicle is fitted with an immobolizer .. i'm not showing one fitted to this year on any model of camry .. or for the year after .. they started fitting the immobolizer in 1997 ?? does your vehicle have a keyfob ??


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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 5:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure it does, It'll set the horn blowing and the key won't do anything when you insert in the ign. It did have a key fob but it got broken and was never replaced. It had a panic button on it along with lock and unlock buttons
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 AT 5:37 PM
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Mike.

Every system you are having a problem with goes through the connecter (junction block) under the steering column .. remember the one (page 7 of these post's) you you had a photo for me .. and said some if the plastic was melted .. you need to check this again for me ..are your side and tail light's working now ??


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