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DAVE H
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Mike.

You already swapped the ECT .. you now need to swap the IAT ... the MAP be reading bad signals because of the IAT ??

Replace the IAT first ..after checking the ground .. this is the sensor that controls cold starting operation with air/fuel mixture


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Saturday, March 21st, 2009 AT 5:36 PM
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OK thanks
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Saturday, March 21st, 2009 AT 6:34 PM
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Saturday, March 21st, 2009 AT 8:25 PM
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Hi guys: I've been doing some checking on the 3 sensors(ECT, MAP, IAT). It seems when I go out to start the car, and if it doesn't start, I check the voltage readings on the 3 sensors, with the ign. On, I get 0 volts on all 3 sensors. Then when I read 4 to 5 volts on the sensors the car starts up. Then when it dies I check the voltage on the 3 sensors and it's zero again and the car will turn over but not start. It makes me think maybe a faulty computer. I know the mech. Said he changed it but what if he put a used or rebuilt one. Can the computer be checked to see if it's good?
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Sunday, March 22nd, 2009 AT 11:03 AM
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Hey Mike.

If you are sure the computer may be the fault .. the only way to test this is to let toyota plug it into their diagnostic equipment .. I would first ask the tech who replaced the computer last time where he purchased the ECM and was it new or used or reconditioned !!

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Sunday, March 22nd, 2009 AT 9:44 PM
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Can you think of anything else that would cause the 3 sensors to not have any voltage? I'm going to try and find out what kind of ECM he put in and in the meantime see if the toyota dealer can check the computerout. Thanks
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Monday, March 23rd, 2009 AT 6:34 AM
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Hey Mike.

Get the information regarding the repalcement ECM from your mechanic ? also I would be checking connector block E8 on ECM and ECM E8 pins 2,3, and 4 are all wires to the sensors you have fault's with .. also connector block E8 pin 9 on ECM is the ground wire for all these sensors .. check these are secure and pins not bent etc. ?? you could also check whether the pins directly on the ECM are giving voltage with ignition ON ?

let me know


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Monday, March 23rd, 2009 AT 10:58 AM
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I found out the ECM was a used one so he's trying to get me another one. I don't know which wires to check because I don't have a wiring diagram.
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Wednesday, March 25th, 2009 AT 11:40 AM
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Hey Mike.

You know what color the wires are, as you told us you are getting no voltage down them sometimes and voltage other times when you tested them ??? the wires at the plugs to the IAT/ECT/MAP are the wiires that go to the pins i mentioned on the ECM ... there is an ECM plug connector diagram on page 22 of these post's and the pins you need to check for voltage are the ones that go to the numbered connector plug with a diagram on page 22 !!

If you get voltage all the time at the pins on the ECM then the ECM is good and the wires are bad !!

let me know


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Wednesday, March 25th, 2009 AT 6:44 PM
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I checked color coming off the 3 sensors at the ECM and not getting any reading. When I get my replacement Ecm I'll check the readings and let you know. Thanks, talk to later
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Wednesday, March 25th, 2009 AT 7:03 PM
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Hey Mike.

You need to check these PINS on the ECM .. not wire, the actual PINS, Ground your voltmeter to battery, turn ignition ON and check if you are getting voltage at the PINS 2,3 and 4 ,,, #9 PIN at the bottom row is the ground for all three if you want to check the ground wire out again !!


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Let me know


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Wednesday, March 25th, 2009 AT 7:29 PM
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I got the replacement ECM today. I installed it and then tried to get some voltage readings but couldn't get any. So I tried starting the car and it wouldn't start. So I figured then it must have been something other than the ECM. So I went back to my old theory that the problem was in the theft deterent system and I installed the alarm module back into the system and flipped the diarm switch located on the drivers kickpanel. The car started up ran a little whjile then shut down. I tried to start it up again and it wouldn't start, so I began to look around and found the alarm activation switch under the hood was broken off and I'm not sure was working properly so I disconnected it and then tried to start car. It started up ran for ten minutes then I shut it down and it started back up again. I'm going to call it a day and see what happens tomorrow. I'll let you know.
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Thursday, March 26th, 2009 AT 8:01 PM
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Hey Mike.

Any update yet ??


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Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 AT 4:41 AM
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Hey Dave : I haven't found the problem yet but I'm in the process of changing out the coil, roter, dist. Cap and wires to see if these are the problem. I couldn't get a resistance reading across the plus and minus on the coil although I did get a good reading on the secondary of the coil. I did notice that the plastic insulation on the coil was cracked so I figured I'd change it after all it's got 300,000 miles on it. Something interesting tho was when I went to get the new coil, the guy there at O'riellys said that the earlier ford coils would crack and when they did the car would run a while and then shut down.I'm hoping that's the problem with mine. Anyway I'm gonna put it all in today and I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks for the interest, talk to you later. I did have a question for you, Do you know why there is a plastic box or chamber attached to the inlet air line between the air filter and the intake plenum. Thanks again, Mike
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Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 AT 8:26 AM
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Morning Dave: Well I tried replacing the items I mentioned and it still won't start. I'm thinking that maybe it could be one of two things left the Igniter or the main relay fuse box. What do you think about those choices. I've been reading a lot of comments from people on the internet that have been having problems with igniters working intermitantly and it looks like from the wiring diagram that the voltage flows from the igniter to the ECM then to the distributer. And right now I'm not getting any voltage to the distributer from the ECM when I turn on the ignition. Also the new coil I purchased had 0 olms for the primary resistance reading across the positive and negative poles. Would that keep it from starting? The manual calls for.4 to.5 olms.
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 AT 7:56 AM
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Mike, what scale are you using when you're testing + and - on the coil. 0 ohms would be a dead short and that can't be. If you've got "0" volts to the = side of the coil, it could be the igniter.
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 AT 1:49 PM
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Hi James: I'm using the 20K scale. The same one I used to check the secondary circuit which checked out OK according to the manual.
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 AT 2:06 PM
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When you touch your ohmmeter leads together on the 20 ohm scale what reading do you get?
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 AT 2:44 PM
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Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 AT 3:11 PM
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What does your "old" coil read? And, if you don't have 12 volts to the "+" side of the coil, there is something else wrong upstream.
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