Engine is a no crank over?

Tiny
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  • 2000 CHEVROLET VENTURE
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I have the car listed above. Parked it battery went bad over three months sitting. Put new battery in. Ignition cycles calls fuel pump but will not engage starter. I jump starter at relay and will start and shut off. Security light flashes from battery to security. Tried the ten minute key in ignition and all that did not work now moving to the prndl switch.
Saturday, February 3rd, 2018 AT 11:04 AM

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Tiny
KEN L
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Hello,

The security light is the issue, the engine will wont crank over with the security engaged. When you did the ten minute relearn did the security light stop flashing and did you start it within five seconds?

It sounds like the battery is weak or the starter has gone out but to be sure lets check out these guides, they can help us fix it

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Sunday, February 4th, 2018 AT 12:46 PM
Tiny
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Never stopped flashing.
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Sunday, February 4th, 2018 AT 1:31 PM
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That is the issue then. I would remove the negative battery cable and touch it to the positive battery terminal. This will discharged the system capacitor and hard reboot the system.
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Monday, February 5th, 2018 AT 10:43 AM
Tiny
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That worked thank you for the help.
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Monday, February 5th, 2018 AT 12:19 PM
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Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.
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Tuesday, February 6th, 2018 AT 10:36 AM
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Hi, I have a 2000 chevy venture that wont turn over, shorted the red- ppl wires in crank relay & starter turns over, relay, did not solve problem. No obd errors- checked fuses all ok, did the 10 min drill 3 times, any suggestions, thanks
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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Is thesecurity light on solid or flashing?Also do you have a multimeter to do some testing?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Security light on dash is flashing, when key is place in ingnition light goes out, yes I do have meter, side power door did not work I think at same time, was working on door lock before all this happened?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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When doors are locked light is solid, when using fob to unlock light flashes, key in ignition light goes out
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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So is the light on after unlocking it with the remote and the key in the run position?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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No, the car is locked and secure, the light is solid--when unlocked the light flashes---when key is in ignition light goes out
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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Did you have the battery tested?Also made sure the battery cables are clean and tight?Also take your multimeter and see if you have two ohms or less from ground to the negative battery cable at battery. See if you have battery voltage at the purple wire with the key in the start position.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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No voltage on purple wire when key in start position, when red wire and ppl wires shorted the starter turns over---guessing the battery is good
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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Alright at the ignition switch you should have battery voltage at the red wire at the ignition switch. Then with the key in the start position the yellow wire should have battery voltage. Then at the right side of the dash fuse panel the pcm/crank fuse should have power to both side of that fuse with the key in the start position. Let me know what you find there and we will go from there.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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When key turned to start position I hear clicking of starter trying to start an engine - lights are dimming. Battery is ok I tried battery from my wife's car with same engine did not start. Car was originally diagnosed with broken head gasket. Last 3 months was cold so car was in garage, not used. Level of oil is higher than max so it proof head gasket problem. Few days ago when temperature was around 60 I started, I drove out of my garage, and ran engine for while until temperature of engine rose to half of scale and I turned engine off. I did try start again and engine did not started. I replaced starter because I had issue with it before (intermittent did not start, if I did hit it was starting).
Question: Is possible some way to move engine?
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes there is voltage at both sides of fuse pcm/crank when in start position
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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If you have a bad head gasket, that shouldn't stop the engine from turning unless one of the cylinders is full of coolant. Try removing the spark plugs to see if the starter can crank the engine then. If it does, check to see if coolant comes out of any of the cylinders.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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Alright at the neutral safety switch the pink wire to it should have power then when the key is in the start position the orange with a black stripe wire should have power.
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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Voltage on the pink at the neutral safety sw, none on qr/blk at the crank relay
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Monday, January 25th, 2021 AT 9:46 AM (Merged)
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The orange with a black stripe wire I was asking about was at the neutral safety switch with the key in the start positon it should have power along with the pink wire at the neutral safety switch.
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