Anti theft system

Tiny
GBCONTI01
  • 2001 FORD WINDSTAR

6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 102000 miles

In the process of changing my fuel pump and all of a sudden it wont even turn over anymore. Its not the battery, alternator its like the anti theft wont give the starter power. Is there a way to reset this or any other suggestions would be great. Thx

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Thursday, January 1st, 2009 AT 6:31 PM

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DAVE H
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I have had great luck by by disconnecting the battery and letting it sit for 30 minutes. Then reconnect it and lock and unlock the door. This should reset the system.

Here is a link as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

Is the theft indicator light flashing or on constantly ?? if not the PATS is okay .. check starter motor and wiring

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Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) contains a theft indicator, encoded ignition key, transceiver module, Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Standard Corporate Protocol (SCP) communication network, PCM power and start interrupt relays. PATS uses radio frequency identification technology to deter driveaway theft.

Passive means it does not require any activity from user. PATS uses specially encoded keys containing permanently installed transponders. Each transponder contains an identification code.

Each replacement encoded ignition key must be programmed into PCM before it is able to start engine. Encoded keys are larger than traditional keys, do not require batteries and should last lifetime of vehicle.

PATS transceiver module communicates with encoded ignition key. During each vehicle start sequence, transceiver module reads encoded identification code and sends data to PCM. PCM initiates key interrogation sequence when vehicle ignition switch is turned to ON or START position. PATS uses PCM to enable or disable engine.
PATS also disables starter motor.

Theft indicator will prove out for 3 seconds when ignition switch is turned to ON or START position. If PATS is malfunctioning, theft indicator will flash rapidly or glow steadily. PATS theft indicator flashes every 2 seconds after ignition switch is turned to OFF to act as a visual deterrent.

PATS will not store DTC or flash theft indicator if valid encoded ignition key is used and a failure occurs in starter relay circuit.
An unlimited key mode system is featured to allow programming of more than 8 keys to vehicle if needed. Each vehicle in unlimited key mode is set up with a special unlimited transponder security key.

This allows all customer vehicle to share same keys, but no other keys from outside can be used to operate vehicles. For an individual customer, any randomly selected security key is acceptable.

Please let us know what you find.

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Thursday, January 1st, 2009 AT 6:39 PM
Tiny
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This worked for a while for me but it started doing it again?

Can you tell me how you fixed this?

Thanks.

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Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 AT 11:43 PM
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2CARPROS KEN
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Its sounds like it could be the alarm module going bad, I would try to get a used one with the remotes it would be cheaper.

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Thursday, September 1st, 2016 AT 5:53 PM
Tiny
YULEE1212
  • 2001 FORD WINDSTAR
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 206,000 MILES

Went to store. Came out van will not start. All the lights are fine, doors, radio and all dash lights. Anti theft light keeps blinking and when I try and crank it nothing.
Tried my other key and it still will not crank.
Everyone says I need a starter but I think it has something to do with anti theft.
Am a sixty six year old granny and trying to do this on my own.
Any ideas?

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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2CARPROS KEN
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Yes, sometime the anti theft gets confused, remove the negative battery cable and wait five minutes and then reconnect it. This should reset the system.

Please let us know what you find so it will help others.

Best, Ken

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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YULEE1212
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Disconnected negative cable and still will not start. Removed #20 fuse tried to start it without fuse no luck.

Could it be the starter?

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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2CARPROS KEN
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Yep the starter sounds like it went bad, here is a link to help you test it

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

Let me know what happens

Best, Ken

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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PABLO NUNEZ
  • 2001 FORD WINDSTAR
  • 1.6L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES

The key of the ignition switch is broken. If I change the switch cylinder with keys, must they be programmed?

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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STEVE W.
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Yes, you would need to have the new keys programmed into the system. Without that being done the vehicle will not start.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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SANDAHLHOME
  • 2001 FORD WINDSTAR

Electrical problem
2001 Ford Windstar 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 70000 miles

I would like to know if anyone else out there has had this problem with their van. I bought my 2001 Windstar with 36,000 mi on it and it now has approx 70,000 mi on it. All my warning bells start going on and off while I am driving. The locks start going up and down over and over again. Also the lights in the mirror flash on and off and sometimes my interior lights go on and off. It's like the van is going insane! I have had this problem several times since I got the van and had it in under my warranty at least 4 times. They adjusted my doors and put some new locks on some of the doors. It would quit for awhile and then start again. They keep telling me they don't know what causes it and the doors just need to be adjusted. It seems to start more when it is damp outside or really cold. Now my warranty is expired and It has started again. So I wanted to know if anyone else has had this problem and if so have you figured a way to fix it permanently. I would trade in this van if I could afford it, that is how frustrated I am. Any info would be greatly appreciated and possibly save my sanity.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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FLEXY5
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I do not personally own a Windstar, but I have seen this A LOT! Ford released a bulliten for Windstars and wiring problems. You have a spot somewhere on the vehicle where the wire harness is pinched or rubbing. There are several known pinchpoints on the vehicle where they inadvertently pinched a wire between the body and a panel clip. A BIG one that has been the most common is located on the bottom of the pillar post just behind the driver's seat. Since all the inputs are ground signals to the computers when something grounds out, the computer goes stupid. Most of the time this is the problem, but every now and then it turned out to be the modules themselves. But I would investigate the pinched wire first.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:23 PM (Merged)
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I received a reply on my Windstar problems from flexy 5, and I would like to know if you are out there, how do I get info on the bullitin you said was released from Ford on the wireing problems. I would also like to thank you for the info so far. I had not heard of others having this problem before, but have heard of some now. I would greatly appreciate any further info. You could give me. My email is sandlillie@hotmail. Com

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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FLEXY5
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I will try to get you a copy of that bulliten. There are several spots on the vehicle, but the most commen one is at the base of the pillar just behind the driver's door. It also may be a loose ground from a module. I'll post back with some more ideas when I get the info. Please be patient, it may take some time.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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Thank you flexy 5 for your prompt reply. I will be glad to be patient and see if you can find me the bulletin and more info. If we can get this fixed, it will be great. Thanks again. The sandahlhome.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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BROPER
  • 2001 FORD WINDSTAR

I think it has something to do with the anti theft system

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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CJ MEDEVAC
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I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH "THEFT"

I'M OLD SCHOOL, JEEPS AND FORDS

IF IT AIN'T TURNING OVER AT ALL, LET'S TRY THIS STUFF 1ST

http://www.2carpros.com/questions/1994-jaguar-xj6-ignition-key-turned-car-doesnt-crank

I MAY HAVE NOT MENTIONED THE NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH IN THE LINK, IT IS A POSSIBILITY TOO

THE MEDIC

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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Contained in computer. You need a fob to dis arm system

Roy

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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BILLIEDAWN
  • 2000 FORD WINDSTAR
  • 11,100 MILES

The alarm and horn went off and my son in law hit the steering wheel and the horn went off but there is something draining the battery after that beleave its in the anti theft but don't know where its located

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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The anti theft shouldn't draw on the battery. What to do is check for an electrical draw. If there is one, remove one fuse at a time to determine which circuit is causing the draw. Then you can focus on the items that are powered by that circuit.

If you need directions to check for an electrical draw, see our homepage under the DIY section.

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Friday, September 29th, 2017 AT 2:24 PM (Merged)
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That was done and still there is a drain. Power without a fuse

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