1996 Dodge Caravan Won't start

Tiny
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  • 1996 DODGE CARAVAN
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 122,000 MILES
Carl won't start. Just get click out of starter solenoid.
Seemed like such a simply thing to fix. The battery is strong and clean. The cables the same as far as I can tell - at least at both ends. I simply replaced the starter and solenoid, but still get the same click in the solenoid. I took starter back and replaced it (deemed bad at parts house), but same thing. Took to another parts house and it bench tested OK. Reinstalled, but still no go.

I've checked the lines for loose or damaged wires, but nothing.
The car just wouldn't start one day after sitting in a parking lot for about one hour. No prior symtons.
Any suggestions!
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Sunday, August 24th, 2008 AT 12:31 PM

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Tiny
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See if you can jump start it, sounds like a bad battery or cables.
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Sunday, August 24th, 2008 AT 1:20 PM
Tiny
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The first thing we did was try to jump start. Nadda!
I did take the battery down to Napa and had it tested. They said it was down just a little but not enough to keep it from starting the car. Maybe, I should switch out a battery from one of our other cars(?).
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Sunday, August 24th, 2008 AT 1:27 PM
Tiny
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First thing is try to read codes,
With the key in off possition, press and hold the trip reset button until sof and a number appears in the odometer window then release the button. If a fault code is present, the cluster will display it in the odometer display. Write all numbers that appear. When all codes have been displayed, the cluster will display "end" Post the result.
TEST NS-1A - REPAIRING A NO CRANK CONDITION 1. Ensure shift lever is in Park. Using scan tool, read park/neutral switch sense. If scan tool displays PARK, go to next step. If scan tool does not display PARK, repair open park/neutral switch ground circuit. Perform TEST VER-1A . 2. Note location of starter relay in power distribution center at driver's side front corner of engine compartment, near battery. See Fig. 60 . 3. Remove starter relay from power distribution center. Using scan tool in voltmeter mode, check voltage at cavity "B" (Red wire) for starter relay in power distribution center. See Fig. 60 . Fig. 60: Starter Relay Location & Power Distribution Cavities 4. If voltage is more than 11.6 volts, go to next step. If voltage is 11.6 volts or less, repair open circuit in fused B+ circuit (Red wire) to starter relay. Red wire goes from battery, through fuse No. 5 (40-amp) in power distribution center and then to the starter relay. Once open circuit is repaired, perform TEST VER-1A . 5. Using external voltmeter, check voltage at cavity "A" (Yellow/Red wire) for starter relay in power distribution center while attempting to crank the engine. See Fig. 60 . 6. If voltage is more than 10 volts, go to next step. If voltage is 10 volts or less, repair open circuit in fused ignition switch output circuit (Yellow/Red wire) to starter relay. Yellow/Red wire goes from starter relay in power distribution center to Positive Temperature Coefficient (PTC) No. 10 in junction block, located behind driver's side of instrument panel, to the left of steering column. The PTC receives voltage when ignition is on. Once open circuit is repaired, perform TEST VER- 1A . 7. Ensure shift lever is in Park and parking brake is applied. Use care when performing this test procedure, as engine may crank over. Momentarily connect jumper wire between cavity "B" (Red NOTE: Perform TEST NS-SEL before proceeding. NOTE: For connector terminal ID, see the CONNECTOR IDENTIFICATION DIRECTORY table. For wiring diagram, see WIRING DIAGRAMS - 3.8L article. NOTE: Early models use a park/neutral switch mounted on rear of transaxle, just above oil pan. Late models use a park/neutral switch which is incorporated into the transmission range sensor. Transmission range sensor is mounted on transaxle, near solenoid assembly. See Fig. 58 for switch and sensor locations. NOTE: The PTC is a specified amperage solid-state circuit breaker located in junction box. The PTC may reset when all current is removed from PTC for approximately 20 seconds. WARNING: Ensure all components are positioned away from engine components, as engine may crank over when performing the following step.
wire) and cavity "D" (Brown wire) for starter relay in power distribution center. See Fig. 60 . 8. If starter operates and engine cranks over, go to step 15). If starter does not operate and engine does not crank over, go to next step. 9. If start solenoid does not click when jumper wire was connected, go to next step. If start solenoid clicks when jumper wire was connected, go to step 13). 10. Disconnect jumper wire. Disconnect starter relay output wire (Brown wire) at starter solenoid. This is the small wire that goes from starter solenoid back to the starter relay. 11. Using external ohmmeter, check resistance between starter relay output wire at starter solenoid and cavity "D" (Brown wire) for starter relay in power distribution center. See Fig. 60 . 12. If resistance is less than 5 ohms, go to step 13). If resistance is 5 ohms or more, repair open circuit in Brown wire between starter solenoid and cavity "D" (Brown wire) for starter relay in power distribution center. Perform TEST VER-1A . 13. Reinstall starter relay. Check battery cables for excessive resistance by checking voltage drop on each battery cable. If voltage drop on battery cables was not greater than .2 volt, go to next step. If voltage drop on any battery cable was greater than .2 volt, repair cable for excessive resistance. Perform TEST VER-1A . 14. Attempt to rotate crankshaft one full revolution. If crankshaft will not rotate one full revolution, repair engine mechanical problem. Perform TEST VER-1A . If crankshaft rotates one full revolution, replace starter. Perform TEST VER-1A. 15. Using external ohmmeter, check resistance between terminals No. 85 and 86 on starter relay. See Fig. 61 . Fig. 61: Identifying Starter Relay Terminals 16. If resistance is 100 ohms or less, go to next step. If resistance is more than 100 ohms, replace starter relay. Perform TEST VER-1A . 17. Ensure ignition is off. Disconnect connectors from Powertrain Control Module (PCM). The PCM is located between driver's side front fender and power distribution center, near battery. 18. Using external ohmmeter, check resistance between PCM connector terminal No. 8 (Tan wire) and cavity "C" for starter relay in power distribution center. See Fig. 60 . 19. If resistance is 5 ohms or less, go to next step. If resistance is more than 5 ohms, repair open circuit in Tan wire between PCM and starter relay. Perform TEST VER-1A . 20. Reinstall starter relay. Ensure shift lever is in Park and parking brake is applied. Ensure all components are positioned away from engine components, as engine may crank over when performing the following step. 21. Connect jumper wire between PCM connector terminal No. 8 (Tan wire) and ground. Momentarily turn ignition switch to START position. If engine cranks, replace PCM. Perform TEST VER-1A . If engine does not crank, replace starter relay. Perform TEST VER-1A.


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