Consistent humming and slight vibration increases when accelerating

Tiny
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  • 2004 BUICK RENDEZVOUS
  • 3.4L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 195,000 MILES
Feels like i'm sitting on it so front somewhere. Sound increases upon acceleration and decreases when slowing down. Sound is constant at constant speed. Already changed 3 of four bearing hubs. Could it be anything else besides bearings? All fluids full. Not overheating. Seems like a drag when driving. Any help?
Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 11:11 AM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon,

Which bearings did you replace?

In most cases, it is a hub bearing. The fronts and rears are very common for failing. The brake dust gets into the bearings causing these issues.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/bearing-hub-replacement

The other area that makes noise is the rear differential. If you have not changed the oil regularly in the differential, the bearings will fail and make a lot of noise.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-differential-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/differential-gear-oil-fluid-check

Roy

Symptoms - Rear Differential Carrier

Strategy Based Diagnostics
Review the system operations in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Differential Carrier Assembly Disassembled Views and Differential Carrier Assembly Description and Locking Differential Description and Operation in Drive Axle Locking/Limited Slip and Transfer Case Description and Operation. All diagnosis on a vehicle should follow a logical process. Strategy based diagnostics is a uniform approach for repairing all systems. The diagnostic flow may always be used in order to resolve a system condition. The diagnostic flow is the place to start when repairs are necessary.

Visual/Physical Inspection
Inspect for aftermarket devices, which could affect the operation of the vehicle. Refer to Checking Aftermarket Accessories.
Inspect the easily accessible or visible system components for obvious damage or conditions, which could cause the symptom.
Check for the correct lubricant level and the proper viscosity.
Verify the exact operating conditions under which the concern exists. Note factors such as vehicle speed, road conditions, ambient temperature, and other specifics.
Compare the driving characteristics or sounds, if applicable, to a known good vehicle and make sure you are not trying to correct a normal condition.
Inspect for all-wheel drive activation and operation. Refer to All-Wheel Drive (AWD) System Functional Inspection.
Factors that may contribute to an inoperative rear differential include:
Low gear oil levels
Differential inoperative due to antilock brake system (ABS) function
Inoperative powertrain control module (PCM) and/or wiring system
A mini-spare or different size tire installed
A fluid over-temperature condition
An inoperative or "stuck" clutch pump check valve
A defective rear differential assembly
An inoperative transfer case assembly

Lubricant Change

Draining Procedure

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1. Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Vehicle Lifting.
2. Clean any dirt from around the differential drain plug (2).
3. Position a drain pan under drain plug.
4. Remove the drain plug (2) and gasket from the differential and drain the oil.

Filling Procedure

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1. Notice: Refer to Fastener Notice in Service Precautions.

Install the drain plug (2) and gasket to the differential.
Tighten the differential drain plug to 32 Nm (23 ft. lbs.).
2. Clean any dirt from around the differential fill plug (1).
3. Remove the fill plug from the differential.
4. Fill the differential with synthetic gear oil GM P/N United States 12378514 Canada P/N 88901045. Refer to Capacities - Approximate Fluid in Maintenance and Lubrication.
5. Inspect the gear oil level to ensure it is even with the bottom of the fill plug hole to no lower than 6 mm (0.25 in) below the opening.
6. Install the fill plug (1) and gasket to the differential.
Tighten the fill plug to 32 Nm (23 ft. lbs.).
7. Lower the vehicle.

8. Important: The vehicle must be driven in tight left and right circles after filling the differential in order to distribute the gear lubricant throughout the differential.

Operate the vehicle in tight right and left circles in order to engage the all-wheel-drive system.
9. Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Vehicle Lifting.
10. Remove the fill plug from the differential.
11. Inspect the gear oil level to ensure it is even with the bottom of the fill plug hole to no lower than 6 mm (0.25 in) below the opening.
12. Install the fill plug and gasket to the differential.
Tighten the fill plug to 32 Nm (23 ft. lbs.).
13. Lower the vehicle.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 12:35 PM
Tiny
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Feeling like you are sitting on it usually indicates a rear axle issue, if you feel it more in the steering wheel then it's front end related. What has been done other than changing the wheel bearings? Tried rotating the tires to see if it's abnormal tread wear? Inspected the tires to see if there are any problems there? A humming that you can actually feel isn't likely a bearing, by the time they got to the point you could feel it the parts would be falling off. Another item overlooked a lot is if the exhaust is touching anywhere or an engine mount has a problem. Either one will send the vibrations from the engine into the chassis.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 12:36 PM
Tiny
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Front wheel drive. Replaced both rear and right front.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 12:43 PM
Tiny
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You should be able to feel the bearing being rough by jacking it up and spinning the wheel.

Roy
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 12:55 PM
Tiny
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Did that. Raised front and spun wheels but not like other bearings. Didn't have that grinding sound like other bearings.I just can't pinpoint it. This is driving me crazy.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:08 PM
Tiny
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Based on your input, it sounds like the differential in the rear.

Roy
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:13 PM
Tiny
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It is front wheel drive. No rear differential.
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:16 PM
Tiny
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Okay, got it.

Then I would replace the remaining hub bearing and see if the noise is still present.

Roy
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:24 PM
Tiny
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Yep 4 rotors and pads on order. I'll grab a hub and throw bearing on while i'm doing that. Sure hope that is it. I will let ya know. Thanks
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:41 PM
Tiny
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy
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Wednesday, October 14th, 2020 AT 1:55 PM

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