Code P2106 and P2173 driving and engine stalls

Tiny
LUKE LUGNORE
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  • 2009 KIA SEDONA
  • 3.6L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 176,000 MILES
My daughter was driving and every thing shut down.I check and found these codes I seen several reasons why the P2106 would set would low oil set this code I have to keep reminding my daughter to always check the oil. There was no oil on the dip stick
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Thursday, January 24th, 2019 AT 8:15 AM

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Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello, I'm Danny
Please be sure to add oil to the engine! Unfortunately that code is not for low engine oil buy for the throttle actuator control system. The first thing I suggest is checking to see if there is any damage/deformation/cracks/leaking or obstructions between the air hose first between the throttle body and air hose first.I've attached a picture below of its location and description. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros. Feel free to ask any questions if needed.
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Friday, January 25th, 2019 AT 12:41 AM
Tiny
LUKE LUGNORE
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I replace the electronic throttle control module. After replacing it I thought it would start right up. It does not start it turns over but does not start.I check to see if there were any additional codes my reader says no codes. What should I be looking for with no codes
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Sunday, January 27th, 2019 AT 1:56 PM
Tiny
KEN
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It sounds like the new actuator will need to be programmed to the car which should cost about $130.00 at a shop. Was the old unit super dirty? If so I would clean it then reinstall to see what happens, please let me know.
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2019 AT 10:32 AM
Tiny
LUKE LUGNORE
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I had a local mechanic look at it and he said the timing belt slipped The rings are bad the engine is gone.
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2019 AT 10:37 AM
Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello again.

Sorry to hear that. Hope everything works out for you. Hope you will be using 2CarPros in the future if any other problems arise.
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Wednesday, January 30th, 2019 AT 10:42 PM
Tiny
KYNDRASC
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  • 2003 KIA SEDONA
  • 135,000 MILES
I have a 2003 kia sedona with about 135,000 miles on it. A few weeks ago it started to hiccup or kinda jerk while driving but not often. Then one day it did this and shut off. It still had all power would turn over but not start. After about an hour it started right up. It did this a couple times and I changed the fuel pump. I drove it for 2 days and I was leaving a parking lot and it shut off-no warning it was running fine. Still had all power would turn over but not start. I was told throttle position sensor, or crank shaft sensor. I am a single mother of 3 and I can not not afford to change parts just to find whats wrong with it. Anyone know what it might be?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
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I would look more for the crank sensor. Instead of guessing, as it is expensive and in most cases wrong, have someone check it and pinpoint the failure

Roy
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
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MAHEDRAS
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  • 2002 KIA SEDONA
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 182,000 MILES
I forgot to replace the engine oil cap and drove it for two days 200 miles and the engine suddenly shut- off while driving, now it will not start.
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
DAVE H
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Is there oil all over the engine compartment. You will need to clean up. Did the CEL (check engine light) come on at any stage?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
BUBUBIGT
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  • 2004 KIA SEDONA
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 88,000 MILES
I have an 04 sedona with 88,000 miles on it. Took it to the dealer to have the timing belt replaced, it was due and starting to slip. Van overheated 2 days before, dealer replaced belt, leaking radiator, head and gasket, rear aux lines and wires and plugs. Dealer mentioned funny Maf sensor readings on the sales slip, but neglected to verbally tell us. Van would hesitate upon acceleration then engine cut out while driving(accelerating) 2 days after we got it back, check engine light is ON when we got it back idling rough. Engine dies lights and accessories work still. Van won't start, after waiting 5 min. It starts then dies shortly after. Replaced maf sensor engine light went out. Drove 70 miles fine. Again check engine light comes on as van dies while driving. Towed it home and there it sits. Dealer underquoted work by $1600, blamed the new guy and gave a $1000 discount on work, called 3 hours later with ironically $1000 new work to be done. I'm not stupid, you have to make up the discount elsewhere! Totally stumped. My research shows this has happened to many other, but haven't found many answers. Supposedly engine was tuned after repair, fuel trim calibrated, but still idling rough. Maf sensor just gets plugged in when replaced, no calibration needed, Am I right? What else should I check? My thoughts are fuel system or ecm. How do I check the fuel system? Could the dealership have screwed up the fuel trim, how do I check and fix it?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
KHLOW2008
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Get a scan done and let me know the EXACT trouble code for the CEL indicating.
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
HOUSECOAT
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  • 2005 KIA SEDONA
Engine Performance problem
2005 Kia Sedona 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive 73000 miles

Today in traffic the engine died. After a little while it cooled down and started up again and run for a short while then died again. Waited again and same thing happened. This has never happened before.
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Has the check engine light come on? Have you checked fuel pump pressure? When this happens, have you checked for spark and fuel to the engine?

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
CHRISH
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  • 2002 KIA SEDONA
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  • FWD
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When I start my sedona sometimes it starts and sometimes it don't, when it does it idles really rough then stalls, then I have to crank it 15 times to get it to run again.I put it on the computer and it says camshaft sensor A ank 1 and ignition coil primary and secondary malfunction, does this sound right or could it be a bad pcv valve.
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Yes it sounds right. Chances are the cam sensor is causing the other code. Have you tried to replace it?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
CHRISH
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Put new camshaft position sensor on and still doing the same thing
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
CHRISH
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Do I need to clear the codes first before I try starting the van, or does that matter.
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
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ANDREW JORDAN
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  • 2003 KIA SEDONA
  • 6 CYL
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 75,000 MILES
Stopped van in driveway. Put in park and it stalled. Turned the key and started and stalled will not idle. Started and held accelerator down to about 2000 rpmand released stalled. Did this 3x went to 300 rpm 1 and held idle. There were no problems or studders leading up to this! Any thoughts would be appreciated?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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It sounds like a bad idle air control valve. Has the check engine light come on?
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)
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ROBWALK001
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  • 2004 KIA SEDONA
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  • FWD
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  • 75,040 MILES
We believe that it is the fuel pump but the mechanic at thae gas station said it was fine and a few days later it did the same exact thing stalling and then try it later it starts right up. Now it wont even start at all in our driveway. HELP!
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Thursday, January 31st, 2019 AT 10:23 AM (Merged)

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