Starting issues

Tiny
CENNET ERDOGAN
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  • 2005 SATURN ION
  • 2.2L
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 118,000 MILES
Starting two weeks ago my car began making a weird ticking noise while running. At first it was only while idling, it did not increase when I gave it gas or while driving. A few days later it had now begun doing the same thing when giving it gas and the noise had grown louder. It appeared to get worse each time I drove it. About a week later I drove it again and then the very next day I cranked it, it idled extremely rough, was making the same noise and then promptly shut off and would not crank again. We replaced the ignition switch that day just in case.

Today I turned the ignition to run, pressed the gas pedal down and proceeded to start the car. After it made a racket for a while it did finally start, extremely rough and continued to run. Only we discovered there was no oil. However, we just changed the oil about a month ago, for that I suspect a leak. Anyway, I promptly shut the car off since we discovered there was no oil. We added about a quart that we had on hand and decided to check the spark plugs. Needless to say we changed all of them.

Tried to start the car again, had to do the same thing, this time it would not stay cranked for more like thirty seconds and I had to keep pressing the gas pedal, which I did not have to do before. The speedometer kept jumping up and down a few times during the process but the rpm's were not increasing at all.

It is not throwing any codes whatsoever, we are at a loss here and had to give up for the night since its bitter cold out.

I do have audio of the sound it makes when trying to start if needed.
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Thursday, March 16th, 2017 AT 6:02 PM

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Tiny
SATURNTECH9
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When you say no oil you mean just not reading on the dipstick or no oil at all? Also, have you performed a compression test yet?
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Thursday, March 16th, 2017 AT 7:25 PM
Tiny
CJ MEDEVAC
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This does not sound like a story with a happy ending.

Might near all owner's manuals tell you to 'Weekly' check your oil level and coolant level (other stuff too as time increases)

Many folks think that once every oil change, 'Fred' Checks it down there at Mighty Lube and that is all it needs.

The reason it needs to be checked weekly is so that "It is perfect" or "It seem to be a bit low, " why?" Investigate, a rock poked a hole in the oil pan/gasket is leaking/head gasket failed and oil is in the coolant/ etc./Etc.

I jump out and check my oil if I hear any kinda abnormal sound! That is why my daily drivers are still a forty and a seventy year old Jeep. Saturday mornings are my vehicle check-up time.

You may have done some serious engine and bearing damage. I hate it for you.

If you are out of oil,

One Quart is not going to do much, if any, lubricating now.

You have nothing to lose at this point, fill it up to the safe level and try it.

If it is not any better.

Confirm my suspensions and drain the oil, while it is coming out strain through some panty hose/cheese cloth/paint funnel strainer.

Or hold a strong magnet in the stream

We are looking for metal flakes/ shavings (that should not normally be there).

There is no miracle additive to fix this kind pf damage, rebuilding the engine or obtaining a used one will be the cure.

Your turn,

The Medic
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Thursday, March 16th, 2017 AT 7:43 PM
Tiny
CENNET ERDOGAN
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Just not reading on the dipstick. Not completely dry.

I'm aware I need to add more than a quart, which is why I said it was what we had on hand. We change our own oil. I will say we're not complete idiots, but we aren't mechanics either.

I've had issues with the oil in the car before, in no time the light would come on every time I turned a corner. So again, assumed I may have had a slight leak somewhere.

I drive a lot of miles taking 3 kids to school, picking them up and driving nearly 30 miles just one way to work.

I'm also aware that the noise it was making beforehand may never go away if its because the oil got so low it damaged the engine. I just don't feel l like it not wanting to stay cranked is because of the oil issue. I could be wrong, but when I was much younger I did acting drive a car until it had no oil and it locked up. The way it behaved is completely different than the way my car now is behaving.

Again, not a mechanic so I could be very wrong.
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Friday, March 17th, 2017 AT 2:08 PM
Tiny
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Oh and no, haven't done a compression test yet but I've read multiple things saying to do so, that was going to be my next step.
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Friday, March 17th, 2017 AT 2:09 PM
Tiny
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The timing chain might have jumped time causing the no start not keep running. That's why I suggested the compression test.
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Saturday, March 18th, 2017 AT 1:39 AM

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