ABS light coming on

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It is probably not the master cylinder leaking. Instead it is most likely the brake pressure switch. It is located on the bottom of the master cylinder and has a bad reputation of leaking. When it leaks it shorts the wires and pops the fuse. Check your Ford dealer. If you have heard of the recall involving F and E series Fords, they recently added several other models to that recall. Call them to find out if your vehicle os part of that. Otherwise replace that switch and clean everything completely. It should solve your concern.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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My ABS and brake lights come on sometimes.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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There will be a diagnostic fault code stored in memory. Have your mechanic read those codes. They will indicate the circuit or system with the problem, not necessarily the defective part.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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Pushing the brake pedal the pedal jumps a little. Make a noise in the front brake think the driver side. The noises is like a grinding sound all most. New brakes and rotors were replaced.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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Sounds like the rotors are warped. If those were new Chinese rotors, a single, light machining will solve this. When we make parts from cast iron, we let them age for ninety days before they get their final machining. When the Chinese make them, they cast them, pack them, and ship them, then they age on your car. If you insist on having them replaced under warranty, you will have the same problem. Just return to the shop that did the work and let them machine the rotors.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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Sorry, overlooked your comment about the ABS light. That means the computer detected a problem, set a diagnostic fault code, and turned the system off. Start by having the code(s) read and recorded. That will indicate the circuit that needs further diagnosis.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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The ABS and brake light on the front board turn on after drive a while. It shows normal when I just start the engine with car keys.
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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We need the code for the ABS. It could be a wheel speed sensor.

The trac will come back on line when the ABS is repaired.

Roy
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Wednesday, July 26th, 2017 AT 7:15 PM (Merged)
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My van has 56,000 miles. The van runs great, but recently the ABS and brake lights will come on after about ten minutes of driving. The brakes continue to work, and the fluid level is good, but the light will stay on. I have to get the oil changed in a few weeks, and I am "sure" the dealer will have an explanation. I did not find this problem listed in your forum area. Any ideas?
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Friday, July 28th, 2017 AT 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Hello, I am Bobbi Jo. I have recently purchased a 2002 Windstar. It had 54,000 miles and runs great. However, about two weeks ago, it too started this ABS/brake light thing. Same as everyone else intermittent possibly when warm. Brake fluid was a little low, topped it off. Brakes could stand to be changed did a front brake job, the rear were still good to go. It is extremely hot here in south Texas and humid. The problem is getting much more frequent. Once or twice I did smell a faint odor of burning plastic, it was so faint that I was not certain if it was coming from my vessel or not. I am at a loss.

Bobbi Jo
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Friday, July 28th, 2017 AT 10:58 AM (Merged)
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Hello,

It sounds like you have a wheel speed sensor that has gone out. Here is a guide that will show you how you can test them:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/abs-wheel-speed-sensor-test

If you find a bad one this guide will show you what you are in for when changing it out.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-an-abs-wheel-speed-sensor

Please run this test and get back to us we are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken
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Saturday, July 29th, 2017 AT 11:28 AM
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I took my 2003 Ford Windstar to the Ford Dealer on Friday to check to see if my car was included in the ABS recall. My brake light and ABS light always come on (even after I had a brake job) and my cruise control stopped working. They installed my new wiring harness and then told me that I qualified for 'Phase 2' of the recall. They took several pictures of the car and told me that they would call me when the had the 'Parts' in to fix my car. On Monday they called me and told me to bring my car in immediately. They offered me a rental car and told me that they had no idea how long it would take to get fixed. I have yet to know exactly what they are about to do to the car but they must have noticed some pretty extensive damage to put me in a rental. Has anyone else gotten their car fixed as part of the recall. Also- when they did 'Phase 1' the ABS and Brake lights still came on. Is there anything that I need to request or check to make sure my car was fixed properly?

Thanks!

K
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:21 PM (Merged)
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I had abs, brake light and track light coming on on me. I had the abs module replace. $ 1600 later no problem. Have them change the abs madule. I have an appointment for the recall and I am hoping that they will pay me back my money. I think that this is provable your phase 2 problem.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:21 PM (Merged)
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Just want to share my story/info.
I have an 02 winstar with 97,000.
Like everyone else on this forum the ABS and brake lights are coming on after 5 minuets or so of driving. I purchased this van from an individual 30 days ago. Before purchase my brother ran a code check on it and nothing was found. After the first 7 days of ownership the A/C compressor went out and was replaced with a new one and the alternator was replaced. The next day the problem started with the abs/brake lights coming on for the first time. Then the next day the check engine light came on. I live in the St. Louis, MO area. It has been unseasonably cool and rainy here for the last month. The brake code comes up C1185 just like everyone else and check engine code came up EGR Valve. That has now been replace but engine light is still on. I will be running a new check in the next couple of days to see if there are more codes, because it obviously wasn't the EGR like the code said. I've noticed in a couple of post that others were having the engine light on also. Were those able to be resolved? Thought there might be a link to all three lights especially since my van has higher miles than most reporting the problem.

I will pull the fuses and have listed a complaint via the web site. I received an Acknowledgement from NHTSA of my complaint via email. Should I be looking for a letter to sign in the mail also?

One more question. I bought this van because it has the factory tow package and I have added a tow hitch and synchronizer for the electric brakes on my pop up camper. Does anyone for see any additional problems with me pulling my camper cross country with the current brake/ABS problem?

In the last 30 days I have sunk a huge amount of money into this van and the problems seem to just be getting bigger!
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The ABS power relay that code c1185 refers to in inside the abs control module. If all powers and grounds are good, replace the abs module.

On the CEL, check the DPFE sensor. Have seen many of these as well. It will eventually cause runnibility problems.

I recommend resolving both of these before your trip or the expense and inconvenience may make for a less pleasant trip.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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Brakes problem
2000 Ford Windstar 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive 107655 miles

My ABS brake light came on April 21, 2008 about two or three times. On April 22 I took it to a mechanic to have him look at it. I told him that the ABS light came on once or twice. He put it on the machine since he said it wasn't still on. He told me that I needed :
1. PARKING BRAKE SWITCH $417.68
2. ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM $518.65
3. ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM $28.82
He also indicated that he would need to remove and replace the ABS acceleration switch $44.50
and remove and replace ABS control module $62.30.
I'd read somewhere on line where the light could come on if the brakes or something are dirty. What is your advice. They did not tell me what codes were indicated. Thank you for your help.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Where do you stand on this?
Was the work done?

IF you have not authorized the work, you are not obligated to pay for the work. IF you authorized the diagnosis, you are obligated to pay that, but in return you should be privy to the codes.

My gut feel is that the parking brake switch is not needed at the least. I have not heard of an accelerator switch, but that may be just a terminology difference.

IF they will not release the codes, take it to another shop. That is just not good business.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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I did not authorize them to do the work and they also said that they would have to order the parts so I told them that I would probably be back. Personally, I didn't think I needed all of what they said I needed. My light has not come back on since. I will take my car to another mechanic.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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IF no lights are on and there are no other symptoms, you really need not do anything at this point.
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Saturday, February 9th, 2019 AT 6:22 PM (Merged)
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The red brake warning light and the yellow ABS warning light on my instrument panel will occassionally light up SIMULTANEOUSLY, and remain lit until I shut off the enigine and restart the car. These lights turn on rarely (every several days) and although both warning lights always light up simultaneously, the conditions under which they light up seem totally random.
I observed the following:
1) The brakes p;ads and shoes are like new (7000 miles).
2) The brake fluid level is near the full mark on the master cylinder reservoir.
3) I bled all brake lines so there is no air in the lines.
4) I disconnected the electrical connector from the brake fluid level sensor on the master cylinder reservoir and thoroughly cleaned all contacts with electrical contact cleaner.
5) I disconnected the negative terminal of the battery for three (3) minutes to clear all error codes and reset the computer.
6) Before this problem began, I had the front passenger side wheel bearing replaced. Prior to having this wheel bearing assembly replaced, this problem did not exist.

Please let me know what you think the problem could possibly be. Thanks so much.
Regards,
Mike
Phone: (408) 425-6587
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