Seat belt warning light & chime & intermittent wiper issues

Tiny
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DESCRIPTION & OPERATION
WARNING DEVICES
The warning device system consists of the following components:
Generic Electronic Module (GEM)
safety belt warning indicator switch, which is an integral part of the driver safety
belt retractor pretensioner
key-in-ignition warning switch
door ajar switch(es)
There are five warning chimes and lamps the GEM controls: headlamps operating
without the ignition on (chime only), door ajar (chime and lamp), key-in-ignition
(chime only), driver safety belt warning (chime and lamp), and belt minder (chime and
lamp).
NOTE: The GEM is diagnosed through the Data Link Connector
(DLC) with a diagnostic tool.
Check email 32 page guide sent.
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Monday, May 2nd, 2011 AT 10:58 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for the explanation of warning devices. I thought it's something other than the GEM.

I called 8 dealers. The cheapest was $79.95 and the highest was $110.00 for the GEM scan. Not sure about the cheapest one since I never heard of them before, but it showed up on a dealer search of the Ford. Com.

I disconnected a connector from the RCM, so I won't accidentally set the airbag/pretensioner off. I jumped the BRN/LT BLU to the BLK while the ignition was "ON". The seat belt warning light came on, but no chime. I assume I didn't get the chime because I jumped the 2 wires when in "ON". To induce the chime, I have to jump the wires from "LOCK" then change to "ON". I'm gonna try from the "LOCK" to "ON" next and see if I get the chime unless you know it's not worth doing so.

Fordparts. Com says the replacement "Seat Belt Buckle Assembly - (Front Seat); Black - includes pretensioner, attaching hardware W709862-S430 not included. (Left)" is about $200. If there is something wrong with the pretensioner say it was deployed, the RCM's gonna give me a blinking light code/airbag light constantly on, yes? If the issue is only the seat belt switch in the buckle not grounding, I'm gonna say I'm keeping the minimum of $300 repair. Thank god for the state of IN not having a mandatory inspection.

I'm gonna try to go to a junk yard and get a turn signal/wiper assembly.
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Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 AT 4:13 PM
Tiny
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Like I've said I strongly recommend the scan. If the chime and warning light don't work the tie in for air bag light might not either.
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Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 AT 6:29 PM
Tiny
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"if the chime and warning light don't work". It's "IF". Some dealer said that they may not scan the GEM at all depending upon the problem. I specifically asked for the scan, but they didn't give me the quote. I told these dealers "forget you." I don't understand why you keep saying get it scanned since some of the dealers might not do the scan even if a customer specifically asked for it. I guess I have no choice but to test the "LOCK" to "ON" jumping since it was unanswered. Also, I guess you don't have an answer to a question of if there is something wrong with the pretensioner say it was deployed, the RCM's gonna give me a blinking light code/airbag light constantly on.

I appreciate diagrams and all, but if an answer to a question is trivial, then I will ask for my money back since both of us wasted both of our times. No gain to either party.
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Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 AT 10:58 PM
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Ford will scan all codes for the diagnostic fee. Customers usually aren't. As demanding ad you. A scan is my recommended course so you don't set an airbag off by tinkering with a sensitive system. I spent a lot of time on this for you to punk me
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Wednesday, May 11th, 2011 AT 3:43 PM

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