2001 Honda Civic Hydrophobic Car.

Tiny
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  • 2001 HONDA CIVIC
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 115,000 MILES
I have a car question that I would like to see what you think may be wrong because I have been dealing with this problem for about a year and a half and my mechanic is completely out of ideas.

The problem:
My car doesn’t want to shift between gears. What it dose it this. When it is working well, it will shift between all gears like it should. When it is having light problems it will shift between 1-2-3 fine, from 3-4 it will stick in neutral and not let me in 4th. What I mean is in pulling the shifter back from 3rd to 4th when it hits the neutral position it is like it encounters something hard and will not slid into 4th like it should. Sometimes it will slide into 4th but it feels like you are pulling it through something every thick like a stick in mud. When it is really having problems it will feel thick and stick in all gears but will still hit that wall from 3rd to 4th.

Background:
I own a 2001 Honda civic 2door coupe with a manual transmission. I got this car about 4 years ago and until last year had not had anything out of the ordinary go wrong with it. About a year and a half ago I was driving my car when I noticed that it was getting hard to shift between gears, having had many manuals this was something that was known to me. I took my car strait to my local mechanic that I have been using for many years and dropped it off. After explaining what the car was doing, he said that he would have his transmission guy take a look at it and give me a call. I got a call about a day later and was told that I needed a new transmission and he suggested gong ahead and replacing the clutch and the fly-wheel at the same time. I did all these and got my car back and for about 24 hours it worked just fine, then I was out driving and the shifter started to stick again. So my car went back into the shop and he said that an assistant put in the wrong fluid and that he had replaced it with Honda certified fluid and it should be good. And for about a week it was then it started to do it again. Needless to say my car has been in and out of the mechanics for the past year and a half and has just about everything transmission related replaced. As of know it is my observation that the transmission acts up only when it rains. Every time it rains the shifter gets all sticky and will sometimes "dry up" and fix its self all on its own.

My thoughts:

I think that it has something to do with the rain; it was a cold and rainy winter last winter when I was having the most problems with it and every time it rains the car starts having this problem and if it is hot and dry for a long time the car has been known to "fix its self". I have tried many times to get it to my mechanic when it was raining and have as of yet been unsuccessful. He is out of answers for me and about all he dose it put it up on the lift and grease up and loob up everything he can think of. I am looking for any help I can get to get this fixed. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and a solution would be beyond my wildest dreams.

Thanks

Nate
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Tuesday, July 27th, 2010 AT 8:30 AM

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Tiny
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Hi Nate,

The only possibility for rain to cause the symptoms would be lack of lubricants at the shifter linkages.

Check the gear shift cable linkages for stiffness. Lubricate them if necessary.
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Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 AT 10:15 AM
Tiny
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This has been done before about 4 times and every time when the car drives over wet roads or drives when it rains this problem starts back up. The most recent time was it was in and worked on last week and got everything lobed up and greased and then early this week it rained a little and it stated act up and then it rained allot last night and it is all tight and not wanting to shift into 4th again with all the gears being tight.
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Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 AT 1:22 PM
Tiny
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Under the shift cables were the levers checked and lubricated?


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_ShiftCable98CivicFig06_1.jpg



http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/192750_ShiftCable98CivicFig23_1.jpg

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Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 AT 6:51 PM
Tiny
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Yes all the areas where greased the last few times that the car has been in. I am not able to look at it right now to see what kind of condition it is in. After the rains we have had in the past few days I now have to when ever I shift, I have to return the shifter to the neutral position and wiggle it a little in neutral to be able to shift. If I do this then it shifts pretty well between gears but this makes driving a real pain in the @ss.
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 7:20 AM
Tiny
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The second diagram shows somw of the areas that cannot be greased without taking them apart and if the component was not disassembled, then you need to do so.
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 7:33 AM
Tiny
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I just contacted my mechanic and he said he took all that apart and greased it all up and moved it all around. He also said he took that one area apart and greased it as well.
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 8:06 AM
Tiny
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Seems all areas have been covered.

Btw does the problem occur only while driving or even when the engine is off?

The only way to get to the cause would be to simulate the problem and then try each section to check which is causing it. Use a hose to spray water on the gear linkages ( try to hose only specific area, section by section) and test if the problem occurs. From there you can try to localise the cause.
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 8:30 AM
Tiny
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Yes the problem occurs even when the engine is turned off. It really is the darnedest thing in the world. My mechanic swears my car has arthritis. I am taking it by to him today because of the rain. I will pass along the idea of hosing down the linkage area by area. Would replacing the linkage completely fix the issue or could there be another cause?
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 8:44 AM
Tiny
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As problem occurs even with engine off, it definitely is a fault with the linkages or levers. Water is causing something to stiffen up, reducing the lubricacity of the component concerned to be heavier than normal.

The problem should be between the shifter, cable and the trans shift levers and it would be a waste to replace every part if only one item is bad.

Check if the shifter cable rubber boots are torn allowing waqter to get into the cables to cause the problem.
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Thursday, July 29th, 2010 AT 9:31 AM
Tiny
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Did you end up figuring out what the problem was? I just got a used 2001 hondA civic. And the EXACT same this occurs. It's raining today, and thegear shifter is starting to get stuck. My car might have arthritus too. :(
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Monday, December 12th, 2011 AT 9:47 PM

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