Transmission fluid level

Tiny
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  • 2005 SUBARU FORESTER
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I checked the fluid level at cold temperature and it was below the low level so I added fluid until it was close to the full level on cold temperature. Per owners manual, I drove the car until it was hot and checked the transmission fluid level for the hot side. It was still registering in the cold so I kept adding fluid until it registered on the full level on hot. Now I checked it when engine was cold and it still registered at full on hot side. Do I need to drain some out?
Saturday, January 27th, 2018 AT 9:04 PM

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Tiny
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I would have to say, no you have it correct.
This is what the repair manual says, I do not know though if it is the same as what your owners manual says or not, since I don't have an owners manual.
Automatic Transmission Fluid > inspection.

NOTE: The level of ATF varies with fluid temperature. Pay attention to the fluid temperature when checking ATF level.
1. Raise the ATF temperature by driving a distance of 5 to 10 km (3 to 6 miles). Idle the engine to raise ATF temperature to 70 - 80°C (158 - 176°F) on Subaru Select Monitor.
2. Make sure the vehicle is level.
3. After selecting all positions (P, R, N, D, 3, 2, 1), set the select lever in "P" range. Measure the ATF level with the engine idling for one or two minutes.

Fig 1: Identifying ATF Level Indications
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Courtesy of SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC.

4. Make sure that ATF level is above the center of upper and lower marks at HOT side.
NOTE: When the transmission is hot, the level should be above the center of upper and lower marks, and when it is cold, the level should be found below the center of these two marks.

5. If the ATF level is below the center between upper and lower marks, add the recommended ATF until the ATF level is found above the center between upper and lower marks.
CAUTION: 1. Use care not to exceed the upper limit level.
2. Remember that the addition of ATF to the upper limit mark when the transmission is cold will result in overfilling of ATF, causing a transmission failure.

6. Check ATF level after raising ATF temperature to 70 - 80°C (158 - 176°F) by running the vehicle or by idling the engine again.
7. Check the ATF for leaks.
Check for leaks in the transmission. If there are leaks, it is necessary to repair or replace gasket, oil seals, plugs or other parts.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 7:00 AM
Tiny
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So even if the engine is cold, the transmission level should still show between the lower and upper marks on the hot side?
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:09 PM
Tiny
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How cold? Just an hour or so or overnight?
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:21 PM
Tiny
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Overnight. The owners manual does not explain where it should be after you add the fluid and it sits over night. So I am scared that I added way too much.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:23 PM
Tiny
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As long as it is not overfull once it gets warm/hot I think you are okay. The transmission does not stay cold very long, it warms up about as quickly as the engine when driving.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:28 PM
Tiny
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It has remained right at the full mark on the hot side even after sitting all night. Kind of confusing when the book says it should be between the marks on the cold side after sitting. I could let some out to bring it just below the full mark on hot side even if it is cold.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:31 PM
Tiny
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I agree with you though, it does seem odd, almost like the fluid is not expanding when it gets hot.
Maybe it is due for a complete fluid change.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:38 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for all your help. Eases my mind as this is my wife's vehicle.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:38 PM
Tiny
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You are welcome!
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:39 PM
Tiny
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Yeah, think I will just give it a complete drain, and refill to give it all new fluid.
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Sunday, January 28th, 2018 AT 1:44 PM

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