Transmission control module location

Tiny
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Thank you for all your help and advice and will post updates as soon as we start work on our car. There was also a high pitched whining that had started the same day it slipped completely. It spewed some fluid that night and now makes a whining noise. I am replacing transmission filter and fluid during all this as well. Any ideas as to if this new noise had anything to do with our transmission slipping?
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Monday, September 3rd, 2018 AT 5:26 AM
Tiny
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Yes, if the filter is plugged the transmission will lose hydraulic pressure which will cause the transmission to slip. This guide will give you an idea on how to service the unit:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

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Monday, September 3rd, 2018 AT 12:46 PM
Tiny
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Thanks!
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Monday, September 3rd, 2018 AT 1:04 PM
Tiny
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Is there an o-ring holding the filter that I am going to have to replace? I do not have much money and I do not want get out there and need more than what I have got. So will the filter kit come with all I need?
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Monday, September 3rd, 2018 AT 4:04 PM
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Filters always come with o-rings and gaskets as needed. You are going to have the A604 4-speed transmission. The filter for that has a tube on top that plugs into a hole in the valve body. The o-ring will already be on it.

Chrysler never used a gasket for the pan or rear cover. If your filter comes with a cork gasket, go ahead and use it if you want, but do not over-tighten the pan bolts. That can split the gasket, then it will leak. Fiber gaskets are a little more forgiving, but you still want to be careful when tightening the bolts. Hand-tight with a quarter-inch ratchet is fine.

If the filter does not come with a gasket, or if you want to do the job the way we do it at the dealership, scrub all the old gasket material off the pan and the bottom of the transmission, then apply a bead of gasket sealant to the pan. Now is when the job gets a little tricky. The pan sits at a pretty steep angle. In the middle of the rear edge you will see fluid dripping down slowly. That is coming from the passages and clutch packs and will still be dripping days from now. That surface must be clean and dry before the sealant hits it

Chrysler has two gasket sealers, one is black and one is gray. Other manufacturers have their own versions, and there are lots of different kinds at the auto parts stores that are just as good. I am only describing the Chrysler products because I am very familiar with them and use them all the time.

The black sealant stays a little more rubbery and flexible when it has cured, but it absolutely will not bond or seal through a film of oil or transmission fluid. Some of us will wash the dripping fluid off with Brake Parts Cleaner and a rag, then have a helper standing by with the pan with the sealant already on it, to slap it on before the dripping resumes. You may get up to five seconds to do that. It is okay when the fluid runs over the sealant after the pan is in place. You just need it in place before fluid gets on those surfaces where the bond has to occur. You can even pour the new fluid in right away. The sealant cures from the humidity in the air. Transmission fluid will not interfere with that process.

Chrysler's gray sealant cures a little harder and it is harder to scrape off next time, but it is supposed to seal and bond through a light oil film. None of us are willing to risk causing a leak by proving that statement to be true. We still want the surfaces clean and dry. Since I am almost always doing everything by myself, I found that if you stick your finger up onto the hole where that fluid is running down from, you can splash around in there to empty the depressions where that fluid is puddling. Wipe the flange once more with Brake Parts Cleaner and a rag, but now it can take a good fifteen to twenty seconds for that well to fill with fluid before it spills over and starts to run onto the flange again. That gives you a lot more time to get the pan in place and get a couple of bolts started. If you still end up with a leak after that, join the club. That has happened to every experienced transmission specialist at least once.

Here is a link to an article related to this service:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

One former coworker used to stuff a rag up into the hole where the fluid was draining from. After a final cleaning of the surface, he had yank the rag out, then have a few extra seconds to get the pan in place. It worked for him, but I had better luck sloshing my finger up in there.

There is no drain plug on this transmission. Leave two bolts in place but backed-out about two turns on the front edge of the pan, then you will need to pry on the edges to break the bond. Have a large drain pan ready. You will get about five quarts of fluid all at once.

I would be more comfortable knowing the clutch volume index numbers before you do this service. If it turns out you need to have the transmission rebuilt, you will be wasting a lot of money on the filter and fluid that are part of the rebuild job.
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Monday, September 3rd, 2018 AT 8:23 PM
Tiny
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What kind of transmission fluid is recommended for our car? I do not want to mess it up.
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Wednesday, September 5th, 2018 AT 7:09 AM
Tiny
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Here is the fluid type. Oil Type, MOPAR ATF+4 Type 9602, Or Equivalent.
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Wednesday, September 5th, 2018 AT 10:03 AM
Tiny
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I have the TCM, it is a used working one I ordered that is a fit for our vehicle. It came from a auto shop that they pulled from a running vehicle. It is a used one that works.

My question is, will be able to just do the work of replacing it? Or is there other things I have to do when putting this one in? Can you give me the steps I need to do this? Please!
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Saturday, September 8th, 2018 AT 8:31 AM
Tiny
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I cannot say thanks enough. It has been so hard to find someone to help us out. My family is very grateful to you all.
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Saturday, September 8th, 2018 AT 8:33 AM
Tiny
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No problem that what we are here for :) It should just plug and play. Let us know.
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Saturday, September 8th, 2018 AT 12:01 PM
Tiny
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Got the parts, new filter and fluid for transmission. Silenced the high pitched whining, put a working TCM In the car, added new oil for engine. Here is what happened:

Worked beautifully at firs shifted fine. Then we decided okay, how will it do out on the high way? Well last night was eventful had a small amount of trouble getting it to shift into reverse at first which we had been used to this problem, but once it shifted, it ran smooth as ever in town so we took the car out on high way for the first few miles it ran fine. Then with out warning she slipped like never before entirely different. She slipped and there was this overwhelming metal grinding screeching noise it was awful. I have spent so much time on this car. Do you have any of the cheapest options to fix the car. I am looking at having to replace transmission right?
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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 7:29 AM
Tiny
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That was the sound of my transmission going bad internally, huh?
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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 7:31 AM
Tiny
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Even as we parked it, it was extremely loud.
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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 7:58 AM
Tiny
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Yep, it sounds like it has let go unfortunately. When they clog the filter it means something is coming apart. Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can hear the noise? That would be great. You can upload it here with your response so we can be sure?

This video shows a FWD transmission coming out even though it's not the same the procedure is very similar.

https://youtu.be/6N6b5F2ChyE

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 10:26 AM
Tiny
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No thank you. I do not feel it is worth the money to buy or replace this transmission. However, I do appreciate all of y'all's help in this. I am not going to chance wasting my money on a car that is no longer safe to drive and that will quit on me repeated times. Thank you all very much. My days of investing in a Chrysler's are simply gone. I should have seen this coming. Clogged filter, transmission failing.
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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 10:36 AM
Tiny
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Let me suggest a possible alternative. First, if you only hear the noise when the car is moving, there was a common problem with the small lock bolt in the differential breaking, and that allowed the large pin to slide out and hit on the case. Often that caused the case to crack and spill all the transmission fluid on the ground. That will not cause slipping though or a failure to shift.

You might look for a nearby community college with an Automotive program to see if they can help. We were always looking for live vehicles to give the kids real-world experience. We charged ten dollars per hour for how long the job was listed in the "flat rate" guide that most shops use, and we got parts at real good discounts, then marked them up ten percent to form a breakage fund in case we damaged something. The drawbacks are it can take weeks to get your car back, and we only worked on the things we were currently teaching. To do otherwise would take work away from the local employers who hired our graduates. Being a smaller school, we only taught Transmission and Drive Line once a year for eight weeks. We would not do brake work or suspension system repair, for example, in that class.

As another thought, if the body is rust-free, there is a real good market for cars like yours up here in Wisconsin. I have the twin to yours, a 1993 Dynasty with less than 5,000 miles. Quite a few people have offered to buy it. If you decide to list it for sale on Craigslist, list it under northern cities. I am getting ready to head south to look for an 1988 Grand Caravan to replace my rusty one. There are people around here who head south all the time to bring rust-free cars and trucks up here. Usually they just go and look for them, but if they see it in an ad, they will know exactly where to go.
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Friday, September 21st, 2018 AT 2:52 PM

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