No spark at spark plug?

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If the computer don't give the ignitor the Igt signal it will not fire, also if the ignitor don't give the computer the Igf signal which is the spark confirmation-the computer won't know combustion has taken place-we stop here and check the ignitor, ECM.

Do you have power at the positive terminal coil, when key is in On position?

Here's some more about Ne and G signal:
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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We have power at pos terminal of coil. We also have correct voltage at connector of igniter per manual.

Also have correct voltage at connector on ECM.

Not sure how to further check igniter other than buying new one and swaping out.

What further chacks can be done on ECM?

You stated "Here's some more about Ne and G signal?"
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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The Ne and G signals-the ECM has to see these signals in order for it to issue an igt signal to fire the ignitor and the ignitor in turn gives the ECM the igf signal that combustion has occur and the process repeats all over.

Ne/G1-2/Igt/Igf are all at the ECM try checking it all. Or swap the ignitor. BTW do you hear the injector clicking while engine being crank over.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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My daugther has a 1994 4-cylinger Camry - Car won't start - we changed the battery cables, distributor coil, ignition module - still no spark, we towed it to a shop for diagnostic test, they said we needed a distributer and neutral safety switch - would the nss keep the car from starting, and would it keep the coil and distributor from conducting a spark? How can I tell if the distributors bad? :(
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Do you have power at the positive terminal of the coil-check your ignition and EFI fuse

The NSS has nothing to do with the ignition operation ( No Spark ) unless the engine refuses to turn over then we can blame the NSS.
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1991 Toyota Camry, 4 cyl, 2 L, 110,000
After I have driven the car for a while and turn off the engine the car will sometimes not start. Nothing happens. No starter turn. If I let the engine cool down or pour water on the Igniter the engine will turn over and start. Last night I came out of a restaurant and the car would not start. I had just replaced the igniter from one in the local junk yard. Luckily, I still had the old one still in the trunk. I swapped the igniters out and the car started right up! I went to Pep Boys to see what a new one costs. The counter tech said that the igniter is supposed to get hot while it is being used. I thought it was hot because of the high engine heat and hot summer weather. He said the igniter is costly ($50) and cannot be returned. He said I shoul make sure it is the bad part.

Have you guys heard of this problem before where the igniter would fail if it gets too hot? Any help would be great. Thanks. (Newbie to your forum.)

P.S. Battery tests good
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It may sound stupid but its not-where are you looking for spark at the sparkplug wire end or at the coil.

Again tell me if you have power at the coil-the shop might be right on a new distibutor-due to the crank angle sensor in it.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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Yeap! Been there before-the same goes in GM HEI Modules.

The ECM tells the ignitor to fire the coil at which time it surges to the spark plugs for combustion
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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So what do you recommend I do now? The "not starting when engine is too hot" happened again. I changed out the igniter but the engine still did not start - no click, no starter turn, nothing. Lights and radio worked fine though. While on the cell phone with AAA arranging a tow, I tried again (after about 20 minutes), engine started right up. When I got home I turned the engine off and then on again. The engine turned over like it was showroom new. I am so confused.

What else do I need to check? Is the starter itself bad? It is about 3 years old and was a rebuilt Bosch that I bought from Pep Boys.

Please help!

Yeap! Been there before-the same goes in GM HEI Modules.

The ECM tells the ignitor to fire the coil at which time it surges to the spark plugs for combustion[/quote:f120c2b90f]
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So what do you recommend I do now? The "not starting when engine is too hot" happened again. I changed out the igniter but the engine still did not start - no click, no starter turn, nothing. Lights and radio worked fine though. While on the cell phone with AAA arranging a tow, I tried again (after about 20 minutes), engine started right up. When I got home I turned the engine off and then on again. The engine turned over like it was showroom new. I am so confused.

What else do I need to check? Is the starter itself bad? It is about 3 years old and was a rebuilt Bosch that I bought from Pep Boys.

Please help!

Start by checking all the fusible links in the power distribution box-could also be the ignition switch/NSS or clutch switch/starter relay.

You can get the starter to kick over if you short the battery terminal and solenoid at the starter-if it kicks over than backtrack to the starter relay/NSS/ignition switch.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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It's the ignitor especially if this vehicle is equipped with a tachometer and the tach starts going hay wire when the problem occurs. $50 is nothing to repair cars these days. If it proves to be the problem you will save that money in one tow.

Good luck!
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I just bought a car and it cranks but not getting spark or fuel. I changed the distributor and checked the fuses. What could it be?
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Good morning,

Can you hear the fuel pump run with the key on?

Did you check and see if the timing belt is broken? If it is, you will have this issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-timing-belt-works

I would also do a compression test to verify the engine is not damaged internally.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

Make sure all your fuses are good. Check with a test light for power on both sides with the key on.

Roy
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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My car is not getting spark from the coil to distributor. Replaced coil with the same result. I have checked and found power to the coil. It ran until I took off and cleaned the MAF sensor. After putting the air filter box back on it would not start. Cranks over fine but no fire. Have also checked all fuses and they are fine. Is it possible I have a loose wire? I have also considered it to be the distributor as I have heard the ignitor wont fire if bad. I have also replaced the ignitor. Any ideas where I go next
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Scan for codes and check to see if the duct work from MAF to engine is connected then check for wires disconnected.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Hello PGFASSBENDERPF,

I am sending you a link to an article that features written step by step instructions and pictures explaining how to do the scan yourself, also I have included a link to our YouTube channel with a how to video on code scanning.
This is applicable even if your check engine light is not on.
Most scanners are inexpensive to purchase, you can purchase one online from sites like Amazon.com

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

https://youtu.be/YV3TRZwer8k

Once you have the codes please get back to us so that we can further assist you. We are always happy to help.

Thank you for visiting 2CarPros.com.

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Thanks for the quick responses, my Camry's not home by me now but will try this and let you know, plan on getting an early start on it tomorrow morning, and again thank you. Will update you tomorrow.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Also, check fuses and relays under hood like the PGM and main relay if you have those.
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Sunday, August 2nd, 2020 AT 11:21 AM (Merged)
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Did check all fuses, and relays, all good, did not check the main relay though. Will also do that tomorrow, and again thank-you for your help.
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Have fuel, but no spark Have changed the plugs, rotor and cap. My next guess is a coil or control module and sugustions?
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