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Starts then shuts off

Tiny
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I had problems with my car turning off while driving about a year ago, but then last week it died on me. Got my battery and alternator checked. Turned out my alternator was bad. My dad installed the new one and according to him he thinks the wire that goes from the alternator to the battery is bad, so he peeled the wires I guess to bypass the sensor, if it has one, and hooked it up directly to the battery. Then he tells me it's the battery. I got a new one and all the car does is start up immediately shuts off. What could be causing this.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 3:37 PM

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Tiny
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Good evening,

Can you post some pictures of the wire you are talking about for me to see?

Do you have a voltmeter to do some testing?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-alternator

Roy
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:04 PM
Tiny
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Yes, here are the pictures. I didn't know I would get a response this fast. I don't have a voltmeter though.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:13 PM
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Wow.

Okay, you will need to get a voltmeter to do some testing. We need to see if the alternator is working.

Is the check engine light on?

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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It does not come on.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:23 PM
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Okay, you need to either buy a voltmeter or borrow one from someone so we can do some checks and see what is going on.

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:28 PM
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I'll have to go get a voltmeter to test it. I didn't expect to get an answer this quick so I didn't prepare.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:29 PM
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It is okay.

Let me know when you are ready to do some testing.

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:31 PM
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Okay and thank you. I'll try to get one right now.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:31 PM
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You are welcome.

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:41 PM
Tiny
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So I can't get access to a voltmeter yet, maybe until tomorrow morning. I do however have this video of what the car does when I try to turn it on. I don't know if this helps at all.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 4:57 PM
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After I turn everything completely off, I hear this kind of clicking noises coming from what seems to be on the relay box behind the battery also followed by one that seems to be coming from under or at least close to the engine.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 5:03 PM
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This sounds like an ignition switch. It starts in the start position and shuts off in the run position.

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REMOVAL

1. Disconnect the and isolate the negative battery cable.

2. Remove the dash end cap See: Dashboard / Instrument Panel > Removal and Replacement > Instrument Panel End Cap - Removal.

3. Remove the steering column opening cover.

4. Remove the HVAC control head See: Control Assembly, HVAC > Removal and Replacement > A/C And Heater Control - Removal.

5. Remove the instrument cluster bezel See: Dashboard / Instrument Panel > Removal and Replacement > Instrument Cluster Bezel - Removal.

6. Disconnect the wire harness connector from the Ignition Node Module.

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7. Remove 4 screws from the I/P holding the Ignition Node Module in place.

8. Remove the Ignition Node Module from the backside of the I/P.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 5:04 PM
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This could still be related to the ignition switch.

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 5:09 PM
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Is there a way to check to see if it is the ignition switch before I get the part?
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 6:01 PM
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That will be done with the voltage checks we will do.

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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 6:07 PM
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Okay, I have a voltmeter. Also I disconnected that wire I showed you on the first picture I sent you. And connected the original and I managed to turn the car on, but after a while it shut off. I recharged the battery and it turned on again and then shut off again.
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 12:36 PM
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Okay, check the voltage at the battery with the engine running. Tell me what you find.

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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 12:48 PM
Tiny
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Now I can't get it to come on. I have a small 6 amp battery charger hooked up to the battery and every time I turn the ignition the voltage on the battery drops to around 11.7.
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 12:57 PM
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Okay, the voltage is 10.5 and keeps going down when it is on.
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 1:00 PM
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It went down to 8 and shut off.
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 1:01 PM

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