Reduced air through defrost vents

Tiny
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The actuator with the white hose is merely the re-circulation door and has nothing to do with your problem. As I understand it, you just cannot get full defrost. The actuator that gives you that is the one with the red and yellow hoses attached to it. It appears you are getting a full throw from that actuator so that tends to point to a problem with the door inside. A common thing to happen is a pencil or something like that will fall into the vent and jam up the door which could be broken by now. If you have access to a bore-scope, it may be helpful.
I am attaching a diagram of the vacuum hoses and doors.
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Monday, September 17th, 2018 AT 11:57 AM
Tiny
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Hi Ken,
I had a feeling it might have been a door issue but I had hoped that it would be a much simpler fix. I do really appreciate your investigating and information you posted. Every now and then, I am up for a challenge and this information seems to cover everything. If I do not get the chance to work on this before it gets too cold, I may just put a small 12 volt heater/fan on my dash, if I can find one small enough and of good quality.

Thanks again Ken,
Eric
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2018 AT 3:33 PM
Tiny
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Last resort you could always pull the dash and fix it right.
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2018 AT 3:39 PM
Tiny
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Hi Wrenchtech,
I was actually think if a borescope would allow me to see anything. However, I was thinking I would use it on the actuator that has the blue line, that goes into the black box under the dash, because I cannot see what is connected to the other end of the actuator arm. The actuator with the red and yellow lines is easier to get to though. If I get a scope, would I go up through the floor vent or down through the windshield opening?

Thanks for your help,
Eric
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2018 AT 3:44 PM
Tiny
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I was thinking down through the defrost vent to look for an obstacle.
Looking behind the actuator would be helpful also.
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2018 AT 3:47 PM
Tiny
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I am going to see if I can find a borescope.

Thanks Wrenchtec,
Eric
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Tuesday, September 18th, 2018 AT 3:53 PM
Tiny
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Great idea. Please let us know.
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Thursday, September 20th, 2018 AT 4:32 PM
Tiny
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Hi Ken. Hi Wrenchtech.

I guess I forgot and got too busy to let you know what I ended up doing. I never got a scope but instead did some digging and found I was able to disconnect the floor heat deflector. It took some work, including removal of both actuators. Upon removing the deflector, I was able to get a good look at the defrost door. It was working properly. I decided to check the panel (vent) door but could not get my hand/arm into the duct work. I snipped a thin piece of plastic used as a support for the deflector and could reach all the way into the panel (vent) chamber. I found the problem. The panel (vent) door had dislodges from its pivot and was simply moving back and forth when the actuator was moving, instead of open and close. Although by feel, I could not seem to get the door back into its "groove", I was able to easily close the door and now I get 99% of air out the floor and defrost vents. Not having panel (vent) air is not an issue at all especially now that it is cold. I use the floor/defrost or just defrost until everything is clear, then switch to floor only and it is perfect.

I would like to thank both of you again for all your help.

Happy Thanksgiving,
Eric
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Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 AT 6:16 PM
Tiny
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Glad you could get it fixed, that kind of problem can be tough. Please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help :) Happy Thanksgiving!

Cheers, Ken
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Friday, November 23rd, 2018 AT 12:16 PM

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