Power doors will not lock or unlock

Tiny
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Okay, so the first picture is the old VSM. The new one which is used via eBay and did come in a box with the part number on the box which was the same as you provided me. Also is plugged in the car now. The second picture is the instructions that was inside with the VSM. I haven't tested anything with voltmeter yet.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 10:48 AM
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Oh, and this is a picture of the new VSM that I got via eBay.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 2:14 PM
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Okay. That makes sense. That is a little misleading because I think this module is the backup for the theft system.

When you plugged it in, did the theft light go off or did it stay on or flash?

Basically, it should be done because they are just going to pull out the info from the old module and put it in this one but that does not mean that it will not operate the locks.

So, I am curious to see if these voltages are different when this module is plugged in.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 2:29 PM
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The theft light still flashes when all doors are closed but not when I'm driving or when vehicle is on.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 2:38 PM
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Okay. Then that confirms that the module does require to have it programmed as it is the back up for the theft information. Basically, this is so that when you replace the PCM the theft info is stored somewhere else, and you don't have to replace all the theft components to match the new PCM. You can simply run a procedure with a scan tool that will tell the PCM what info it needs to work with the vehicle as equipped.

So that means we need to treat this the same and check the voltages and find out what is there.

One more thing that we need to do is go to the lock actuator on one of the doors and make sure there is no power there. I am sure there isn't but maybe we missed something.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 5:40 PM
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Okay, I will check the voltage tomorrow and get back to you. What scan tool do I need? I do have a basic one so I will send a picture of it tomorrow to see if that will work.
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Monday, December 6th, 2021 AT 6:07 PM
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Unfortunately, you need one that is capable of extracting the info from the module, saving it and then flashing the new module. Those are the high dollar tools that most DIYer don't have. So, if you have a code reader or one that can monitor live data, that is not going to be capable of doing this.
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Tuesday, December 7th, 2021 AT 11:38 AM
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So here is the voltage I got for the new VSM and a picture of the scanner I have. Also, other thing to mention is that my auto lights never worked, and dome lights would come on randomly and now they both work how they should. I'm sure it has to do with the VSM buy didn't know if that helps.
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Tuesday, December 7th, 2021 AT 12:48 PM
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Unfortunately, the scan tool will not work for transferring this info.

As for the voltage, those voltages are off as well. You have 18 volts on the output and a number of switch inputs on door ajar switches.

Plus, you have 37 volts on another one, so we have to have an issue with either the meter or how we are testing this.

Can you get a picture of the meter hooked up to this so that we can see the settings on the meter and how you have it connected to the circuits?

You should have around battery voltage on most of the circuits or close to 0 volts. So, these are very strange but at least some of the things that didn't work started working again so you know that other module was causing issues.
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Tuesday, December 7th, 2021 AT 5:18 PM
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Okay, so I couldn't get a picture of me testing it in one shoot but the first is the setting I've been using and the second is the ground lead on the ground from the fuse box and third is the positive stuck in the back of the plug in the VSM. This time I had the car off and I quickly tested all the wires and got 2 volts or less if I held it there but right when I touched the positive, I would get 13 or 14 volts then if held would go down to what you see in the picture or 1 or 2 volts. Hopefully this helps.
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Thursday, December 9th, 2021 AT 3:50 PM
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Okay. I think I see the issue. This meter has an auto scale so when you checked these volts and it says 40 volts or 37 volts, I suspect that was millivolts and not volts.

So, let's just focus on pin 1. Can you hook this up and check the voltage on pin 1 and ground? Then get a picture of your meter when you are pressing the lock button and when you are not?

Hopefully seeing what the meter is saying for these will get us where we need to be. Thanks
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Thursday, December 9th, 2021 AT 7:28 PM

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