2002 OLDSMOBILE SILHOUETTE GAUGES TURN OFF AND ON AMONG OTH

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  • Merlin2021
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Some GM's have a plug under the driver's seat, and not for the power seat, it would plug into one coming into the vehicle from outside, if you have one, unplug it and inspect for corrosion and damaged pins, this may cause all your symptoms too.

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Wednesday, August 25th, 2010 AT 1:51 PM
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  • Ofblong
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Yeah there is no plug under my seat for that. The only thing I found (finally found that I was going to the wrong wire on the strip for the DIC lol) was there was a BUNCH of dexcool in the compartment with the PCM. I took a rag and cleaned out as much as I could and then used a blow dryer to dry it off. My guess is it got in there when the engine overheated and blew coolant all over the engine compartment (thus why I went and had the manifold gaskets replaced). So far drove it 10 miles and nothing has happened. Then again its not 90+ degrees out and only 72F. If and when it comes back I will take it into the dealership and have them run a tech 2 on it and see if they can at least tell me which part is bad. The cd player in the radio quit working as it wont read a single cd (started not reading them before I started ripping everything apart). So it might be the radio but the radio eye might just be dirty so I dont know. I am leaning more towards the IPC but again without the expensive tools to verify it I am not gonna just change it out lol.

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Wednesday, August 25th, 2010 AT 6:45 PM
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You MUST unplug the wet connector and see if water got insde the plugs, dry them off! You can also remove the plugs at the IPC and inspect both the plugs and the IPC circuit board, many times just unplugging and re plugging fixes problems, GM even sent out a tech bulletin to the dealerships to do just that.

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Friday, August 27th, 2010 AT 7:07 PM
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  • Ofblong
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I unplugged both the blue and white connectors and no water got inside them. Did that when I cleaned out the compartment.

Today the van WOULD NOT start. I could hear the fuel pump turn on but I didnt get that "click" sound of it wanting to start. The radio wasnt on so I unplugged it and the van started. All the gauges were completly eratic. I pluged the radio back in and it did not turn on until the instrument cluster stopped doing its dance. Then it would turn back on. I unplugged the IPC and I no longer get the low fuel ding. Though now the radio wont turn on because of how its tied to the IPC. Unplugging and plugging the IPC connectors back in makes it not do any funny stuff for about 1/2 mile then it starts right up again. I am getting 13.6 volts with everything on at the orange and black wires (hot and ground) on the IPC plug so its got plenty of voltage. Plus I just noticed today that the Odometer is not keeping miles anymore. SSSOOO I am gonna have the IPC sent out to be refurbished as its $100 cheaper than buying a new one and having it programed at the dealership.

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Saturday, August 28th, 2010 AT 12:57 AM
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Let me know how that turns out!

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Saturday, August 28th, 2010 AT 4:01 PM
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  • Ofblong
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Finally found the problem. The harness coming out of the PCM goes down under the air duct and to the ac accumulator. There was about 100 ish wires in this wire loom (I am estimating but there sure were a ton of wires) and most of them were shorted against the ac accumulator. Holy cow is that alot of work to repair all those wires. I didnt notice it because it was hidden on that side.

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Monday, August 30th, 2010 AT 2:28 PM
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That'll do it! Tough finding the little buggers eh? Nice work.

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Monday, August 30th, 2010 AT 4:23 PM
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  • Ofblong
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Yes very tough especially when there are so many that are so small lol. It seems to have fixed my po420 fault as well but only time will tell on that one. I havent checked to see if the cat test has finished yet or not lol.

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Monday, August 30th, 2010 AT 7:35 PM
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You can recheck to see if the o2 sensor is now switching between rich and lean.

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Tuesday, August 31st, 2010 AT 2:13 PM
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  • Sparkii
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My 2004 Silhouette had this problem any time the outside temp went over 26 degrees centigrade. After driving a short while, guages go nuts, traction control, check engine and other lights activate, speedo gets jumpy and the engine stalls.
It will restart almost right away only to repeat the problem shortly.
I traced the problem to the ingnition relay in the fuse/control box, right corner under hood. ( New relay did not help).
High underhood temp, + battery heat ( right under the box) are combining to cause this relay to open temorarily. Driving with the plasic cover removed has cured this hot stall problem. Its never an issue in cooler temps. ( Some models may have less accessories running thru this relay, creating less heat, and so may not have this problem). Venting the cover also helps. I've done this recently.
I would suspect the Venture and Montana will also experience this problem. Hope this helps. Sparkii

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