Transmission is not shifting and speedometer does not working?

Tiny
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Working on truck the woman payed someone to put transmission in it still same way as the old one that came out. Won't shift, speedometer don't work. I put new shift solenoids in transmission, no luck. Cleaned in put and out put speedometer sensor did not help. Will not shift manually. I went and got transmission that came out of it going to try the speedometer sensors out of it. Can y'all help she does not have money after she payed for transmission swap first time. So this is a freebie.
Sunday, May 24th, 2020 AT 6:33 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Does the transmission shift from drive to reverse and just not shift after that point? Will the vehicle move?

As far as the vehicle speed sensor, that can cause shifting issues. Do you know if the transmission is a 4L60E or a 4L80E? Is the new transmission from the same year make and model vehicle? Is the check engine light staying on while the engine is running?

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
Tiny
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Yes, it has the 4l60e. Yes, it goes in to reverse from D engine light is on. Don't know if transmission is from same year make or model. She had it on scanner nothing. But I found lighter fuse blown. Going to try to get a code tomorrow see how lighter fuse was installed. What do you think? Hope you can help.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
Tiny
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If the speedometer isn't working, I suspect it has to do with the vehicle speed sensor. If you have a live data scanner, plug it in and drive the vehicle to see if the scan tool indicates a speed. If it doesn't, replace the speed sensor. I attached a pic below of location on this transmission.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
Tiny
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The transmission in truck or the old one in the bed don't have speed sensor as the image you sent me. My are on the transfer case. Have 3 with same number 2 or on tail of it was told the one on right side goes to the dash the other one is to read the mph I am guessing input, output have one on to I am thinking for 4wd speed. I checked all plug connections that I found going back to them I put new ones in. If I can figure out how to send you a pic will send you one of old ones. Don't know where to look at next.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
Tiny
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Do you have a scan tool that can read other than engine codes? If she had it check elsewhere, they may not have had the capability to read transmission codes, body control module codes and so on.

Actually, scanning the CAN system would be a good idea to see if there is a break down between modules.

https://youtu.be/InIlnsjOVFA
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Yeah, had Snapon it had code 239 I believe. I lost the paper it was on. Was not on transmission side of scan. I will call him who did it for me just don't know what to do next. Someone said to reset the speedometer but I think that just if it's stuck. Don't know what to do.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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If you attach the scan tool, does it show vehicle speed in the live data setting?
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Never tried that. Will take it back and try that.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Let me know what you find. If there is a signal, then we have an issue at the cluster. If no signal, then we have to assume it's the sensor.

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Transmission not shifting and speedometer pinging a little up and down. Diagnostic showed speed sensor. Put new AcDelco sensor in, now transmission still not shifting and speedometer does not move. Diagnostic show 3 mph when not moving.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:23 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi,

This is going to be a tricky one to diagnose. The idea that it is showing a 3 mph signal when the vehicle is stopped indicates there is either a short to power or excessive resistance in one of the wires between the VSS and PCM.

Here are the diagnostics that explain how to trouble shoot this type of issue. They are somewhat extensive and require general knowledge of how the electrical system works.

The attached pics are the actual flow chart. Take a look through them and let me know if you are comfortable doing it Also, if you have retrieved a specific code, let me know that as well. It may help narrow things down.

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2000 Chevy Truck K 1500 Truck 4WD V8-4.8L VIN V
Vehicle Speed Output Circuit Diagnosis
Vehicle Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Powertrain Management Sensors and Switches - Computers and Control Systems Vehicle Speed Sensor Testing and Inspection Component Tests and General Diagnostics Vehicle Speed Output Circuit Diagnosis
VEHICLE SPEED OUTPUT CIRCUIT DIAGNOSIS
Vehicle Speed Output Circuit Diagnosis

Diagnostic Chart (Part 1 Of 2)

see pic 1

Diagnostic Chart (Part 2 Of 2)

see pic 2

Schematic

see pic 3

CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION
Various components apply a voltage to the vehicle speed output circuit. The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) creates the vehicle speed output signal by rapidly grounding this circuit via an internal switch called a driver. The driver operates at the same rate as the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) signal input. The various components recognize the voltage being pulled to ground as an indication of vehicle speed.

DIAGNOSTIC AIDS

IMPORTANT: Remove any debris from the PCM connector surfaces before servicing the PCM. Inspect the PCM connector gaskets when diagnosing or replacing the PCM. Ensure that the gaskets are installed correctly. The gaskets prevent water intrusion into the PCM.

For an intermittent, refer to Symptoms. See: Computers and Control Systems > Symptom Related Diagnostic Procedures

TEST DESCRIPTION
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.
2. Further circuit diagnosis may require I/P removal. Test the circuit from the PCM to the tachometer for being open, shorted to ground or, voltage.
3. This step is testing for the proper signal voltage.
4. This step is testing for an open circuit between the IPC and connector C100.
5. This step is testing for a grounded circuit between the IPC and connector C100.
6. This step is testing for an open circuit between the PCM and connector C100.
7. This step is testing for a grounded circuit between the PCM and connector C100.

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:23 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Took to a mechanic it was the wiring next to the sensor connector.
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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 AT 12:23 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi,

Glad to hear you got it fixed. Wiring can be a tricky issue to solve. Regardless, please feel free to come back anytime in the future if you have questions.

Take good care of yourself.

Joe
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