Where is the MAP sensor located?

Tiny
CMOSELEY
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  • 2012 FORD EXPEDITION
  • 170,000 MILES
MAP sensor location needed
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Wednesday, November 24th, 2021 AT 6:41 PM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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The 5.4 3 valve in those doesn't use a MAP sensor, they use an integrated Mass Air Flow and Intake Air Temperature unit instead.

What is the issue or code you have that suggests a MAP sensor problem?

Have you checked codes?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

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Thursday, November 25th, 2021 AT 12:26 AM
Tiny
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I do not have a reader I am having erratic idle conditions and loss of power and excessive fuel consumption all which can be remedied by disconnecting the battery resetting computer then conditions will come back within 100 miles.
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Thursday, November 25th, 2021 AT 7:41 AM
Tiny
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Just to jump in, do you have a check engine light or any warning lights?

It is probably a good idea to check for codes just to be sure we don't have any.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

However, it sounds like you are having an issue with the fuel adaptives.

This is most likely caused by o2 sensor issues because what happens when you clear the battery is you are wiping the memory of the PCM.

Then it takes about 100 miles to run through all the required monitors and then it starts using all these systems to optimize the fuel consumption.

The best way to try and figure this out is to monitor the o2 sensor data with a scan tool but I know you don't have one. Does anyone you know have one that can monitor o2 sensor data?

Basically, I think we are going to be at a stale mate if we can't start monitoring these systems to find out where the issue is.
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Thursday, November 25th, 2021 AT 6:58 PM
Tiny
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Yes I do have check engine light I will be going to have it set up for diagnostics at a shop tomorrow I changed the MAF sensor with a aftermarket sensor and all the exact symptoms I was having immediately presented themselves I installed the old sensor back in and vehicle operation went back to normal which will change at some point im sure once I drive some next question given messing with that sensor immediately replicated all the problems I was having is this vehicle sensitive to aftermarket sensors non motor craft or is it possible I just got a bad one.
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Thursday, November 25th, 2021 AT 7:21 PM
Tiny
STEVE W.
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It may not like aftermarket parts, many don't these days. However, the likely reason is that the replacement is out of spec. With the quality of parts these days anything can happen. However, it sounds like the issue is with one of the parts that does require a drive cycle causing a problem, like the O2 sensors or possibly the MAF although that would usually show problems without a long drive cycle. How does it start after you fill it with gas? Short crank time or does it take a while? Is the engine quiet at idle? Any rattles or ticks? The 3 valves are bad for losing rocker arms. That shouldn't cause poor MPG, but it could cause an erratic idle if one is failing.
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Thursday, November 25th, 2021 AT 11:43 PM

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