Injector not spraying fuel

Tiny
FRED WHITE
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  • 1989 MAZDA B2600
  • 2.6L
  • 4 CYL
  • 4WD
  • MANUAL
  • 167,000 MILES
Can't get injectors to pulse, I have tested connectors to Injectors, both wires are hot when I turn the ignition switch to on position. Fuel pressure is good (new fuel pump). Replaced all 4 Injectors with new ones, and fuel pressure regulator is new, good fuel pressure but injectors won't spray fuel. Do you have any suggestions that would help fix my problem? It would be greatly appreciated. I took the ECM out and sent it to be checked for repair and the ECM repair shop said there wasn't a problem with it. Please let me know.
Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 AT 6:30 PM

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Tiny
BORIS K
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Hello,

It sounds like you either have no power at the injectors or the ECU is not receiving a signal from the crank angle sensor. In the electronic engine control system utilized on this vehicle, two signals generated by the distributor/ crank angle sensor which are used by the ECU in its calculations for various outputs.

First check that the injectors are receiving 12V supply.

POWER SUPPLY CHECK

Disconnect injector harness electrical connector.
Check for voltage at the B/Y wire terminal of the harness side connector.
IGNITION "OFF" - 0 volts
IGNITION "ON" - 12 volts (battery voltage)

If no voltage is present, check the main relay and wiring between the main relay and injector harness connector

Also check if there is spark when cranking the engine.

The distributor utilizes a photo-diode type crank angle sensor consisting of a slotted disc that turns with the distributor shaft and a stationary pick-up assembly. As the disc rotates past the pick-up, the slots (one for each cylinder) alternately pass and block photo-diode light transmission. Signals generated are interpreted by the ECU to determine crank angle (#1-cylinder TDC) and engine RPMs. To calculate ignition timing, the ECU uses this input together with several others related to vehicle operating conditions. Except for the initial setting, ignition timing is under ECU control.

How to use Voltmeter.
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

How to test a relay.
https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Please let us know.

Cheers, Boris
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Friday, February 4th, 2022 AT 7:18 AM
Tiny
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Pictures below show what I found after stripping the injector harness connector wiring, a few of the wires in the harness are 12v hot while switched in the on position, none are hot when switched off. Should this wire be uninsulated and loose in the harness as it is, or should it be connected to something, or ground or left as it is?
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Friday, February 4th, 2022 AT 10:26 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

I noticed you haven't been contacted for several days. Have you been able to make any progress?

As far as the injectors are concerned, they should receive power once the key is on, and I believe you mentioned that is the case. Once you crank the engine, the ECM should provide a ground path to each injector based on need. If I'm reading the schematic correctly, power is supplied via the black wire with a yellow tracer. I attached a copy of your pic below. Is this where you have the power supply to all injectors?

If you do, the issue is either the ECM isn't providing a ground path. If you have a Noid light, test the light green wire with a black tracer on injectors 1 and 2 to see if power is continued to the ECM's ground. Do this cranking the engine. Also, injectors 3 and 4 should receive a ground path via a light green wire with a red tracer. Check them all.

If you want, you could check for continuity to ground with a multimeter as well when cranking the engine.

I attached your pic below along with a schematic of the injectors for your reference. Also, if you haven't already, I recommend testing for diagnostic trouble codes. The vehicle has an OBD1 system and all you need to retrieve codes is a short jumper wire or even a paper clip. Here is a link that shows how to do it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/diagnostic-trouble-codes-for-1995-and-earlier-mazda-cars-obd1

Let me know what you find or if I can help. Also, inspect some of the wires you indicated in pic 1 you sent. Some look like they could have internal damage (under the insulator). Also, which wire are you referring to in your pics as loose or disconnected?

Pic 3 shows the wires I noticed appeared damaged. Inspect them closely.

Take care,

Joe

See pics below.

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Tuesday, February 8th, 2022 AT 7:33 PM
Tiny
FRED WHITE
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I checked the injector connectors for pulse with a Noid light and haven't got the Noid light to light up on either injector. I test the black and yellow power supply wire to the injector harness, and at the injector connector at the injector and it has a 12v power supply when the ignition is turned on. What this suggests is the ECM is not sending ground signals to the injector sounds like to me. Are there any other tests I can run to check the ground signal at the computer or are there other tests I should try? Your information was very helpful so far in diagnosing my trouble, thanks and please reply again to my concerns if you will.
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Wednesday, February 9th, 2022 AT 3:38 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

First, you are very welcome. You are likely correct as far as the ECM. That is what completes the circuit. If you have a multimeter, you could check for continuity to ground on the opposite wires. That would need to be done when while the engine is cranking.

I prefer using an analog multimeter because it's easier to see the needle jump. A DMM sometimes can trick you.

Also, if I recall correctly, the ECM receives ground by being screwed to the kick panel. I don't know the condition of the vehicle, but if there is corrosion or rust, it can cause issues as well.

By chance, did you try to retrieve diagnostics codes?

Joe
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Wednesday, February 9th, 2022 AT 4:13 PM
Tiny
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No, the diagram of the OBD1 connector you sent is different from the one I found on my truck. My truck has a 4 or 6 pin green diagnostic connector on the passenger side under the hood, with a yellow 2 pin diagnostic connector along with it. Could you send me the diagram if you have it to check codes on this one, I described if you have it. My truck is a 4x4 manual transmission, 2.6 liter, 1989 B2600i. The 4x4 might be the difference I'm guessing. Thanks.
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Wednesday, February 9th, 2022 AT 6:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

By chance, is there a single-pin green connector located there? If there is, you will ground that connector using a jumper cable.

See pic 1 below. It shows what I believe you have. Pic 2 is the directions from the manual for testing.

Let me know what you find.

Joe

See pics below.
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Thursday, February 10th, 2022 AT 3:51 PM

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