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Have crank, but no start

Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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  • 1994 FORD MUSTANG
  • 5.0L
  • V8
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 170,000 MILES
On my car listed above GT model manual, the first problem we had was the engine would just quit after driving about ten miles, would not start for a couple of hours. Now it will not start at all. We have crank but no start. We have a new battery, checked the ICM three times it tested good. We removed the computer module to check to see if there were any burn marks or broken connections, the computer seems to be good. We have no spark to the coil, we changed the coil, nothing. We were told this sounds like a PIP problem but we do not want to change parts if it is not the problem. We have tried to scope the engine with a meter, but it will not connect to any meters so we can not get any codes on the problem.

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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 12:40 PM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon.

There is a pick up coil in the distributor. You can check that with an ohm meter. You will need to check the two wires for it. You should have between the 800-1100 ohms for a good reading.

Roy
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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 1:21 PM
Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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How do I check it? Do I unplug the harness that comes out of the distributor and which two wires is the pick up coil? Do I need to take the distributor out?
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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 2:29 PM
Tiny
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Is the module on the distributor or is it a box mounted on the fender well?

Roy
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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 2:32 PM
Tiny
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It is in the distributor.
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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 3:11 PM
Tiny
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Okay.

It is the black/light blue wire and the dark green wire.
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Tuesday, March 27th, 2018 AT 3:19 PM
Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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This is an msd electronic distributor. On the plug that goes into the distributor is 2 green, 2 olive and black, a red, a black and white, and a black. For a total of 7 wires.
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 2:44 PM
Tiny
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Ok, thats all non OEM. What model so I can look up the diagram?

Roy
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 2:45 PM
Tiny
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It's just a msd distributor I can send you a picture. I don't know any model
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 2:47 PM
Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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These are the wires I see down in the distributor
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 2:56 PM
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JOHN BRANDON
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This picture is at the back down inside
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 2:58 PM
Tiny
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Is that corrosion in the distributor?

Roy
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:03 PM
Tiny
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It looks like it is.
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:06 PM
Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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But it was running until 2 weeks ago. When it ran until it got hot and wouldn't start for a few hours. Now it won't spark at all
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:07 PM
Tiny
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OK, you said before you tried to scope it? Did you scope it off the negative of the coil?

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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:13 PM
Tiny
JOHN BRANDON
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An under dash scanner was used and would not collect any data. We changed the coil and that was not the problem
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:15 PM
Tiny
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Ok I still think you need a pick up coil in the distributor
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:18 PM
Tiny
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Yep, that's what I'm thinking too
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 3:35 PM
Tiny
KEN L
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Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken
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Thursday, April 5th, 2018 AT 2:13 PM

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