Battery drain

Tiny
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  • 2000 MITSUBISHI MONTERO
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My vehicle has begun to drain my battery if I do not disconnect it. I bought a brand new battery after my battery that was a year old completely drained. I placed it in my truck and then the next day when I went to start it the car was dead. I had not driven it between placing the new battery and attempting to start it the next day. I jumped the truck and after letting it charge for five to ten minutes I disconnected the cables and decided to drive around the block to help charge the battery. After 500 feet I noticed that my lights were dimming and the truck sounded like it was about to shut off. I head back the 500 feet to home to have the electrical system completely lose power right before pulling into my driveway. I do not have any accessories on and yet the battery drains and the car will not charge when driving. I took off the alternator and had it tested but it tested positive. Does anyone know what could be causing this massive drain?
Monday, June 11th, 2018 AT 5:06 PM

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Tiny
HARRY P
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Have you checked the battery terminals themselves? Bad, dirty, or loose connections can wreak havoc on a car, causing all kinds of weirdness to happen. Here is our guide on that: https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

If that does not help you out, then the next thing to do would be to look for something that is draining the battery. Here is our official guide on that: https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-dead-overnight

And here is my personal process that I use: All you need is a multimeter ($15.00 to $20.00 or so at AutoZone). Disconnect one of the battery cables from the battery. Touch the disconnected cable to the other cable so any residual energy in the system is grounded out. Take your multi-meter, turn it on, and set to 20V DC. Take one lead and connect it to the newly disconnected battery cable, and connect the other lead to the battery post that the disconnected cable came from. You should see some sort of reading. Now start unplugging fuses, one at a time, until you see a significant drop in the meters reading. You have now identified the circuit. If the car has any aftermarket electronics (like a radio, for example), then start with checking that.

This is the multimeter that I have: http://www.sears.com/craftsman-multimeter-digital-with-8-functions-and-20/p-03482141000P?plpSellerId=Sears&prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

Let us know which fuse it was and I will personally look up what is on that circuit.
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Monday, June 11th, 2018 AT 7:27 PM
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I will try this as soon as I can and get back to you. Thanks.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 7:54 AM
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HEYMAN1104, upon following your suggestion I found that the generator circuit fuse to be the drain.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 9:51 AM
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HARRY P
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If there is a drain on that circuit, it likely indicates that you need an alternator. But go ahead and inspect all of the wiring coming from and going to the alternator. Look for any signs of fraying. Also make sure that they are tightly connected.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 11:15 AM
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I checked the wires and there are a couple that looks like someone spliced them. I will get a new alternator and redo the wiring job and let you know how it goes. Thanks!
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 8:11 PM
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I replaced the alternator but it is still draining. What should I be looking for with the wires to and from? Should I be looking for two wires fused together or one that might be frayed and touching metal? If one wire is not connected would it still drain? I would not think it would as it would not complete a circuit.
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Thursday, June 14th, 2018 AT 11:52 AM
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I went through all the wires and connections. Every wire is covered and intact and all contacts are clean, dry and tight. The bundle of wires that go to the alternator split at the firewall. Some go through the firewall and the remainder go back to the battery and fuse bay. Could the problem be coming from whatever is on the other side of the firewall?
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Thursday, June 14th, 2018 AT 1:08 PM
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HARRY P
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When you were checking the individual circuits (pulling fuses), did you check all of them? Or did you stop at the generator circuit? I am thinking that maybe there is something else causing the drain. If you have any aftermarket electronics in the car, then start with those circuits.

Also, did you check the "generator" fuse itself? If that fuse is blown, then your alternator will not charge the battery or run the electrical system at all. So your battery, which was low on power as it was, would quickly die after having been jumped and not charged any more than that.
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Thursday, June 14th, 2018 AT 7:29 PM
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The vehicle does have an aftermarket remote start. I started with that first when testing. I did test all circuits. The only one to show a change in the flow was the generator circuit. I did check the fuse itself. It appears to be clean and unbroken. The only fuse I did not pull was one that comes from the positive terminal on the battery. I was not sure what this fuse was for but I am guessing that it helps to regulate or protect against voltage spikes. I attached the photo of this.
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Wednesday, June 20th, 2018 AT 8:17 PM
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I do not know if this matters but both ends of the alternator cables have power going to them. I tested both cables out and both have 12 volts going to them.
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Wednesday, June 20th, 2018 AT 9:02 PM
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HARRY P
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Just doublechecking, you did check the fuses in both fuse boxes, right? I have to ask because some people do not know that their cars have two or more fuse boxes. You should see changes in other circuits too, such as the radio, for example.
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Thursday, June 21st, 2018 AT 7:46 PM
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I did check both. There is not any voltage in any other circuit when I use your testing method except for the generator circuit.
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Thursday, June 21st, 2018 AT 8:28 PM
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Oh, one other thing that may be helpful is that the blower fan for the vent in the cab will stay on with the key removed if I have not turned it off. So will lots of other things. The windows also work without the keys.
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Thursday, June 21st, 2018 AT 8:32 PM
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HARRY P
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Sounds like your ignition switch is shorted. Likely the cause of your drain as well. I will get you some specifics on how to get to the electrical part of the switch tomorrow and we will figure out a test for it.
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Thursday, June 21st, 2018 AT 9:20 PM
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Hey, Heyman1104, did you ever figure out a way to test the switch?
Thanks!
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Friday, June 29th, 2018 AT 6:14 PM
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HARRY P
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Sorry, I really meant to. In the process of buying a house and it is consuming all of my extra time. Anyways, the best way I can figure to test it would be to do the drain test that you ran earlier, but this time unplug the electrical connector to the ignition switch and observe the voltage drop. Attached is Mitsubishi's instructions on how to remove and replace the switch. The directions are less than impressive, in my opinion. But that is what we get sometimes.
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Friday, June 29th, 2018 AT 9:59 PM
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So I really appreciate your help Heyman1104. I ran the drain test and disconnected ignition switch. The drain was still there. I disconnected the alternator and the drain was still there. I went back and checked all fuses again and removed all aftermarket wires and accessories. I tested again and still the only fuse to stop the drain was the one linked to the alternator. Or at least I believe it is. I attached a photo of the fuse (it is a 100 A fuse). When I take the fuse out and both cables are attached to both terminals and then place the fuse back the ABS relay clicks. I removed the relay and the drain is still there. I guess it just means that power is being shunted over there bypassing the ignition switch.
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Monday, July 9th, 2018 AT 3:34 PM
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I would remove that aftermarket remote start unit I have had nothing but problems with those. Also, does the drain stop when you remove the connector for the ignition switch?
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Saturday, July 14th, 2018 AT 10:51 AM

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