After completing an engine swap, the engine cranks but does not start

Tiny
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After doing an engine swap, the car ran for 2 minutes, cut out and isn’t getting spark anymore. Have checked the fuel and it’s all okay. Changed out coil pack, spark plugs, crank, and cam sensors and still nothing.
Tuesday, February 22nd, 2022 AT 1:30 AM

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Tiny
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This sounds like it is a control issue and not necessarily a failed part.

So, is the theft light remaining on when you are turning the key?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

If the theft light is not staying on or flashing, then we need to know what engine you installed in the vehicle and what it came out of so that we can pull the info on that system and start tracking why we don't have spark.

Also, we should check and see if there are codes in the system which would point us in the right direction. Here is a guide that will help with this:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

However, in most cases if you are not getting power to the coil then the PCM is the issue.

Clearly that is a guess at this point so let's start with this info and we can go from there.

Thanks
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Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022 AT 6:41 AM
Tiny
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The theft light is flashing while the car is off, and I cannot find an obd1 scanner for the car. How would I go about testing to see if the coil has power and if it does how do I check the ECU?
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Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022 AT 5:31 PM
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Okay. Couple more questions so that I can get you the accurate info.

What engine did you put in the vehicle and what did it come out of?

Also, when you turn the key to the on position does the theft light go out.
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Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022 AT 5:36 PM
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The theft light does go out, put in a 4l Intech engine from a 2002 Ford Falcon.
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Thursday, February 24th, 2022 AT 8:50 PM
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Okay. Got it. So, this is going to be a little more difficult for us because we don't have an inline 6-cylinder engine, but this vehicle is closest to a Taurus which is sold here in the USA.

So, here is a guide that will help with checking for spark which is where we should start:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

Next the way to check the coil is to see if it is getting 12-volts on the terminal coming from the power source which will be a fuse.

I attached a wiring diagram below for reference.

Then depending on how many coils you have, there will be a wire coming from the PCM which is what is used to interrupt the 12-volt signal to create the high voltage spike needed for the spark plug.

Basically, this is going to normally be a ground through the PCM but if you have a single coil then you are not going to have the A, B, C as shown.

Let's check for voltage here and go from there all assuming that you have no spark at the plug.
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Friday, February 25th, 2022 AT 6:11 AM
Tiny
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I’ve tested at the connector that goes into the coil pack, 4 pin connector with one pin reading at 12.4v. I'm guessing that this pin is the common pin and the other 3 are for the different circuits within the pack.
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Friday, February 25th, 2022 AT 6:00 PM
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You are correct that the one with 12 volts is the power supply. However, if you have 3 other wires, more then likely you have 2 coil packs, and the other is the return to the PCM.

If you want to get a picture of this that will help but normally a 4-pin connector on a coil is one power supply, one PCM return, 2 coil packs. So, these two coil packs will feed 3 cylinders each.
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Friday, February 25th, 2022 AT 6:46 PM
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Okay. So, I think I understand what you're saying. In the connector the far left pin is the power supply making the 2 pins across from it the primary and secondary circuits in the coil pack and the far right pin the PCM return.
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Friday, February 25th, 2022 AT 6:49 PM
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Yes. That is correct. Technically the primary and secondary circuits are internal to the coil but the wires coming from the PCM are to create the voltage spike for the coil.
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Saturday, February 26th, 2022 AT 5:53 PM

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