Crank no start

Tiny
GEORGE SORESINO
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  • 1996 CHEVROLET CHEYENNE
  • 5.0L
  • V8
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 208,000 MILES
Truck cranks just fine, no spark, no fuel, when key is turned to on no dash lights come on, and no turn signal. I disconnected the negative battery terminal and turned on lights to discharge ECM. When put back together it started and ran. Cranked it up a about 6 times, then it stopped and went back to crank no start. Would that verify a bad ECM?
Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 1:14 PM

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Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
  • MECHANIC
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Good afternoon,

No, it is not. It is possible, yes but it could be an expensive guess sine the truck does run once the code is forgotten.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

When it happens again, check for any codes. There may be fault codes in the system that may lead us to the issue. every time you remove the cable, you make the ECM forget about the codes.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Check for codes. You can have a parts store read them for you for free.

Roy

VCM REPLACEMENT/PROGRAMMING
Service of the VCM consists of either replacement of VCM or reprogramming of the EEPROM. If the diagnostics call for replacement of the VCM, it will be necessary to transfer the PROM and program the EEPROM.

NOTE: When replacing the production VCM with a service VCM (controller), it is important to transfer the broadcast code and production VCM number to the service VCM label. This will allow positive identification of VCM parts throughout the service life of the vehicle. Also transfer the PROM.

CAUTION: To prevent internal VCM damage, the ignition must be OFF when disconnecting or reconnecting power to the VCM (for example, battery cable, VCM fuse, jumper cables, etc.).

CAUTION: In order to prevent possible Electrostatic Discharge damage to the VCM, do not touch the connector pins or soldered components on the circuit board.

VCM REPLACEMENT/PROGRAMMING (WITH KNOCK SENSOR (KS) CALIBRATION PROM)

REMOVAL PROCEDURE
1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the connectors from the VCM.
3. Remove the spring retainer off and over the rail of the VCM. Slide the VCM out of the bracket at an angle.
4. Remove the VCM access cover.
5. Remove the PROM/Knock Sensor (KS) module.
6. Inspect for the alignment notches of the KS Calibration PROM.
7. Carefully set it aside.
8. Do not open the KS Calibration PROM.
9. Remove the new VCM from the packaging. Check the service number in order to make sure it is the same as the defective VCM.
10. Remove the access cover.

NOTE
The Knock Sensor (KS) module must be transferred to the replacement VCM.
The replacement VCM is supplied without a EEPROM program, the replacement VCM must be programmed before the vehicle will run.
Using the thumb and first finger, remove the KS Calibration PROM by gently squeezing each end of the blue KS Calibration PROM
Do not remove the cover of the KS Calibration PROM. Use of an unapproved KS Calibration PROM removal methods may cause damage to the KS Calibration PROM or the socket.

INSTALLATION PROCEDURE

NOTE: Press only on the ends of the KS Calibration PROM. Gently press on the KS Calibration PROM until it is firmly seated in the socket. Listen for the click.

1. Align the notches of the KS Calibration PROM with the notches in the KS Calibration PROM socket.
2. Install the KS Calibration PROM in the KS Calibration PROM socket.
3. Install the access cover on the VCM.
4. Install the VCM in the engine compartment.
5. Install the connectors to the VCM.
6. The MIL, antilock and brake lamps will continue to be enabled until the VCM is programmed. Once the programming is complete, the lamps will turn off and normal operation will occur.
7. Connect the negative battery cable.

CAUTION: In order to prevent possible Electrostatic Discharge damage to the VCM, do not touch the connector pins or soldered components on the circuit board.

8. Proceed to the EEPROM programming. See: Engine Control Module > Procedures > EEPROM Programming
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Wednesday, May 27th, 2020 AT 2:31 PM

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