Timing chain replacement

Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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  • 2012 LAND ROVER LR4
  • 5.0L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 68,000 MILES
Have read many blogs on cassettes problems on this vehicle, I have one.
I have searched for the parts two -tension-er's and guides (new upgrades).
But not sure what correct part numbers for the upgraded tension-er's and the guides with the metal at the contact of tension-er area. Any information will help. I do not know if I am buying old new stock or the upgraded version.

Thanks, Mark
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Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 AT 6:41 AM

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KEN
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Hello,

Here are the correct part numbers for the timing chain guides and tension-er's along with diagrams to show you how to do the job:

Parts Information OEM Part # Price
Timing Chain Guide
18 - Tensioner Guide LR051013 $70.98
Chain Guide 19 - Right LR051011 $38.63
19 - Left LR051012 $38.63
17 - Timing Chain LR032048 $98.60
20 - Chain Tensioner LR051008 $129.53
22 - Timing Chain, Intermediate Gear
Includes: Intermediate Gear. LR067417 $381.61

Timing Drive Components
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Removal

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Here are the diagrams you will need to replace the timing chain and guides with the tension-er's. (Below)

Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.

Cheers, Ken
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Wednesday, June 20th, 2018 AT 12:04 PM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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Great, I have everything and have studied everything you gave plus everything I could find on the web (not much on there). Lol
I have valve covers off, etc.
My question is, as far as I can tell there is only one way everything lines up? In other words there is no 180 off or anything like that right?
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Tuesday, July 24th, 2018 AT 1:33 PM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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Actually I mean 360 off.
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Tuesday, July 24th, 2018 AT 1:34 PM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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I notice that as I rotate engine the marks on the old factory chain never line up, is this because of the VVT?
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Wednesday, July 25th, 2018 AT 8:35 AM
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KEN
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Correct you must bottom out the VVT to set the timing in the guides above they have you remove the camshaft angle sensor but I think you can do it without the special tool. Just make sure the camshaft actuators are all the way back (not advanced).

Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.

Cheers, Ken
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Wednesday, July 25th, 2018 AT 2:13 PM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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Yeah, that is what I thought. I have the tool for VVT's, I assume the engine rotation is clockwise as your looking at the front of crank, and VVT set all the way back would be counter clockwise.
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Wednesday, July 25th, 2018 AT 2:38 PM
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STEVE W.
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Yes, on the rotation directions you have.
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Sunday, July 29th, 2018 AT 8:06 AM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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Okay Ken, things are looking good except when I pulled pin on one tension-er then reset it, it will not spring back out? What happened?
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Monday, July 30th, 2018 AT 12:56 PM
Tiny
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Sorry I got it, was not holding my tongue out. Lol
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Monday, July 30th, 2018 AT 2:34 PM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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I noticed after get all together, removed the cam holding tool from back of cam on left bank that the cams moved a little bit. Normal?
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Monday, July 30th, 2018 AT 3:03 PM
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STEVE W.
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A small amount is okay, like 1/2 a link or less. More than that double check that the marks are okay. If they are still lined up you should be good.
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Monday, July 30th, 2018 AT 5:08 PM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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Picture of left bank.
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 7:23 AM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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I notice when put the cam tool back on the exhaust cam is just slightly off, not much just a shade enough tool will not go fully in. I really need to get this right real pain to disassemble. Lol
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 7:33 AM
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KEN
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Yes, if the cam tool is on the engine when these images were taking the chain looks like it is off one tooth or the actuator is not fully backed off. Can you send pictures of the cam tool installed?
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 11:31 AM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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I could not get cam tool back on the exhaust cam is turned slightly so will not lineup. So guess I should start over.
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 11:56 AM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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The pictures were after I used the actuator tool to tension the chains counter clockwise by the intake cam then removed the cam holding tool went. Back to check and look like the exhaust cam rotated slightly, the cam holder won't got back on. So I should start over?
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 12:02 PM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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And yes that is my blood on the tool. Lol. Is in on the intake side, not on exhaust. No the previous pictures were after the tool was removed.
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Tuesday, July 31st, 2018 AT 12:44 PM
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MARK FRIZZELL
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I redid the left bank, this were it is, tool in back fully seated, chain and tension-er on. I have not yet put tension on actuators yet.
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Wednesday, August 1st, 2018 AT 9:25 AM
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KEN
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Looks good from here. Are the crankshaft marks lined up you are on TDC? If so it looks good to me. Sorry about the injury.
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Wednesday, August 1st, 2018 AT 11:40 AM
Tiny
MARK FRIZZELL
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Yep, crank at 6:00 o'clock, have not put tension on actuators yet.
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Wednesday, August 1st, 2018 AT 11:46 AM

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