2002 Cadillac Deville Deville HVAC Aircondition Cold passen

Tiny
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  • 2002 CADILLAC DEVILLE
  • V8
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 110,000 MILES
1- When we cold start the car, the air start to flow immediately. I.E. It does not wait until the temperature is stable.
2- The cold air on passenger side is fine but on driver side only air (not cold)
3- Checked the coolant level and it is full / no leak

TNX fo any help
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Friday, July 23rd, 2010 AT 10:39 PM

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Tiny
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The airflow starting immediately, I do not think is a problem. The temperature difference could be. On a more specific level, is the passenger side and drivers side being set to cold, and only cool, or ambient air exiting the drivers vents? When heat is selected, is the heat adequate out of both sides? In certain situations, a low refrigerant charge can give cool air on the passenger side, and not as cool air on the drivers side, it has to do with proximity to the evap core. Another situation could be a fault with an hvac actuator. You can enter diagnostics and check for trouble codes from your info center buttons. Push and hold info up, and on/off until the segments light, and release. It will display ALL, push on/off again and it should read ALL CODES, and push on/off again and record all codes. They will sequentially display in alphabetical order, by module. Record them and post in a reply. More specifically, I believe we are looking for IPM(instrument panel module) codes. If you have an actuator type fault, it should set a code. A lower than capacity refrigerant charge will not, in most cases. If the charge gets low enough to inhibit operation, it may set a code, earlier models did.
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Friday, July 23rd, 2010 AT 11:58 PM
Tiny
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We tried all different combination of cold & hot passenger side nothing helped. I cannot hear actuator flapping open or closed!

Here are the codes before we cleared them:

ABS C1287 History
DDM U1713 Hist.
IRC U1064 Ghist.
RIM C006 Current

Cleared the codes and the only code remained was

RIM C006 Current

After about 50 miles of driving these are the codes again:

ABS C1287 Hist
IRC U1064 Hist
RIM C0660 Curr

Thanks for your comments
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Monday, July 26th, 2010 AT 5:24 PM
Tiny
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None of the codes pertain to your symptoms, I will inform you on what they are. The C0660 in the RIM is a fault relating with the exhaust solenoid in the level ride compressor, the level ride is probably inoperative due to this condition. The C1287 in the ABS relates to a steering position sensor fault. Often times it is the sensor, but not always. The U1713 set in the drivers door module is a communication fault, in respect the system disables express up as a result. The U1064 is a communicatios fault as well.

So when you say you tried hot/cold combinations, does the driver side continue to just blow ambient air at all times, and the passenger changes respectively? Or does the driver side just not blow as cold as the driver side?
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Tuesday, July 27th, 2010 AT 10:54 PM
Tiny
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Did a few new tests:

When set to very hot. Can hear actuators on dashboard flap closed and no air flow from Dashboard outlets. We reduced the heat and air starts to flow on dash but driver side almost ambient (not as hot)

When set to very cold. The Driver side is almost ambient and Passenger side is cold. When we shut/close the middle outlet of the driver side, the outlet on far left (near driver window) blow slightly colder air.

Hope this information help. Thank you
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Friday, July 30th, 2010 AT 11:14 AM
Tiny
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When set to full hot, it will stop blowing out the vents, and move to floor. In auto mode, it will change modes readily based on inside car temperature. If it is 60 in the car, and you set to 75-80, it may blow out floor vents. The problem I would focus on, is the fact that it doesn't blow cold out both sides. If you are getting some cooling, close to or lower than ambient, I would make sure that you have a full refrigerant charge in the a/c system. This can cause some temp difference side to side, and the warmer it is out/inside, the more difference you will notice.
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Monday, August 2nd, 2010 AT 11:00 PM
Tiny
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We checked and AC has full refrigerant charge.
Also please note:

When set to hot the air flow of the driver is still not It not hot

It feels ambient both in AC or Heat conditions.

Thank you for your help.

Basil
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Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010 AT 6:32 AM
Tiny
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It is almost safe to say you are at the point of needing a scan tool to check a few things. Actuator commands, versus actual positions. Usually if an actuator overtravels, which is most common, it defaults to a position(hot or cold). When this happens, it should set a code, and this code will also be stored in a history. If there is a mechanical type problem, say linkage that is disconnected for example, the actuator will respond to commands, and a fault may go unnoticed. It could possibly be something taken care of through software programming, it is hard to say. Try this recalibration procedure.

Calibration Procedure without a Scan Tool
Turn OFF the ignition.
Remove the battery positive voltage circuit fuse of the Instrument Panel Control Module.
Important: The module memory will not clear if the battery positive voltage circuit fuse is installed in less than 60 seconds.

Wait 60 seconds.
Install the fuse.

The fuse indicated is the HVAC fuse in the rear fuse block, under the rear seat LH side.
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Wednesday, August 4th, 2010 AT 10:41 PM

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