Engine overheating

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BRONX1959
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My car was running very hot and started to overheat. I brought it in to my mechanic and they replaced the thermostat. But it is still running hot. They said it's not getting a tight seal on the cap even though they replaced it with a new one. They said I might need a 18PSI instead of a 16PSI. I went to pep boys to get one but they said a 16PSI is good enough. What do you it might be?
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RASMATAZ
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Check the radiator if its clogged-up and water pump circulating coolant thruout the engine if both okay try bleeding the cooling system don't work get it block and pressure tested.
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Thank you for the advice. What are your feelings on the radiator cap? The 16psi as opposed to a 18psi cap?
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Tiny
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16 or 18 psi it doesn't matter versus the OEM part the idea behind it is to hold that pressure

Did they pressure test the old cap? Again block test it and go from there that's if the water pump and radiator are in working order-could be very well be airlock in it-who knows?
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BRUCE1955
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Try having your mechanic take out the radiator and send it to a radiator repair shop. Most likely you have a plugged radiator specially if you use that orange colored dex cool antifreeze. That type of antifreeze is more of a sugar base antifreeze, and if you dont replace it every 2 years it will end up plugging up the cores in your radiator. I had a Cadillac that that happened too. And when I took the radiator out it weighed close to 40 lbs it seemed like. Took it to a repair shop and they took the tanks off and boiled it in a acid bath and cleaned the cores and replaced it with new tanks and my over heating issue was solved.
Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 7:38 AM
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Vehicle overheats after it is driven for a while. What could be the main problem and if it is reasonable in terms of repairs costs.
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Could be low on coolant, that would be the most inexpensive. Before I spent any money to address it, I would strongly recommend the cooling system be checked for the presence of combustion gases. This would indicate an internal leak, and could bein the range of $3000 or more to fix properly.
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Engine Cooling problem
1998 Cadillac Deville V8 Front Wheel Drive Automatic 145000 miles

Q. Vehicle overheats after it is driven for a while. What could be the main problem and if it is reasonable in terms of repairs costs.

R. Could be low on coolant, that would be the most inexpensive. Before I spent any money to address it, I would strongly recommend the cooling system be checked for the presence of combustion gases. This would indicate an internal leak, and could be in the range of $3000 or more to fix properly.

Q. Would "Steel Seal" product work to fix such a problem?
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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 10:46 AM (Merged)
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In my honest opinion, I am not real supportive of additives, but I am in the repair business. Will it work, I don't know. I have never had any experience with anyone who has used it.

I will give you this scenario. Assuming that it has an internal leak, the cause is aluminum thread failure in the head bolt holes. Could be one, two, or several, on one or both banks. A sealant is possibly going to help the current leak, but will not restore the retention(clamping) of the stripped hole. What is likely to happen, is holes around the stripped one are going to fail, as they are more relied upon to sustain the load. This comes from heating and cooling, expansion and contraction.
A lot of the reason I don't support additives, especially in the cooling system, is this. You add it to a tank, with not alot of turbulent water flow. The heavier portion of the substance is likely to settle to the bottom. If in fact it does make it main stream, is the leak bad enough that it is going to seek and plug it? I have seen more of the sealants trapped in the bottom of radiator tanks, and blocks. It could lead to increased cooling system temperatures, and a higher potential for overheat.

The assumption that you have an internal leak is just that at this point. You would need to have it tested to confirm. A block test is best done with a gas analyzer, like the one used for emissions testing. Roadtest the vehicle until warm, have the gas analyzer at the filler when the cap is removed. Any reading over 100 PPM hydrocarbons indicates a cause for concern. As far as Steel Seal, on a consumer basis you could give it a try. If money, or repair costs exceeding the value of the vehicle are a concern, it is your best option.
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I have an 98 cadillac deville that over heats I changed radiator, thermostat, radiator cap and its not the water pump. Please help
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Don't waste anymore time, or money, until you have a block test done for the presence of hydrocarbons in the cooling system. Aside from the occasional thermostat stuck closed, failed W/P belt tensioner/belt, and low coolant level, internal combustion leaks are the major cause for overheat on these engines. The head bolt threads in the block were a poor design from 93 up until about 2004 when the thread pitch was increased.
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Thank you for responding now I'm being told its the intake manifold could that be correct
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Coolant does not flow through the intake manifold, nor would it cause an overheat. There is a passage through the throttle body that can plug and possibly cause an overheat, but it is somewhat rare. If you are not confident in who is giving you the diagnosis, and they have yet to do a block test, I would urge you to demand a test before spending anymore money. If they don't know how to perform the block test, or are not equipped, find someone who is. I would be willing to bet that it has leaking head gaskets(internal) due to pulled head bolt threads.
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I noticed my 1998 deville was running hot. I replaced the thermostat. The car still is runnig hot but it cools down as I drive it. The water pump is working but the fans come on when it reaches 230 degrees. Do you think the thermostat is bad or the fans need to be replaced?
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Hi:
If you replaced the t-stat, chances are it is ok. If the fans are working, they sound ok. Does the engine cool down when the fans turn on? Have you ever had the radiator flushed?

Let me know.

Joe
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Yes at about 230 degrees both fans come on and the engin starts to cool down. Iam going to flush the radiator now. Hope that it will take care of the problem. Thanks for now
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What else could be causing my engine to overheat after I installed a new radiator and a new water pump aith a new thermostat?
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Your engine coolant temperature sensor could be faulty. Have it checked/replaced. This sensor, tells the computer what the temperature of the coolant is so that it will turn the fans on when it becomes too hot.
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BRONX1959
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Would the wrong radiator cap cause the car to run hot and overheat? I have a 20psi cap on the car and I have been told all I need is a 16psi. I have a new water pump, thermostat and radiator. And it was block tested. Would the extra pressure form the cap cause it overheat? I would appreciate an answer because this is driving me crazy. The car is great otherwise. Thank you.
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If a wrong cap were used and was to high of a pressure, you could blow a hose, because of too much pressure.

If the pressure is too little than nothing will happen, other than it will release the pressure sooner than what is recommended.

May want to try bleeding the system.
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