Transmission reverse issue?

Tiny
FPJ66
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Hello,
I have purchased a 2011 dodge avenger with 24000 miles on it. I'm at 25000 miles on it now, when parked it makes a noise as I shift through the gears. The car kinda does a kind of push/pull motion and I can hear what sounds like the computer making noise. Shouldn't a car be quiet when shifting through gears? It makes a computer noise, like if ur lowering the window then a thump. Doesn't when shifting to neutral but does when shifting to reverse or park. Also when I move in reverse my brakes make noise, wether I'm hitting the brakes lightly or just tapping them. They make a loud screech. It never does that while in drive. When it happens in reverse it comes and goes. Is this normal? Should I take the car back to the dealership? Thank you for your time guys.
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Sunday, May 27th, 2012 AT 1:20 PM

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Tiny
ASEMASTER6371
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It is still under warranty with a bumper to bumper 3-36 from the factory.

Is this a stick or automatic?

It may also be the motor surging making you think it is the trans.

What about this noise? Like a computer?

Roy
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Sunday, May 27th, 2012 AT 1:25 PM
Tiny
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Well its automatic. The noise its a computer noise and then it sounds like gears are grinding. Checked the transmission levels. Everything was good. Bout to look under the car n see if I spot a leak. A car with 25000 miles should be shifting real smooth. Not make noise and make that thump sound. It's the same sound my 98 pontiac was making the last to years before it entered heaven. And as for the breaks. It did it this morning but I went in reverse later in the afternoon and it didn't make a peep.
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Sunday, May 27th, 2012 AT 6:32 PM
Tiny
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I suspect you're hearing the solenoids on the transmission. You have a problem when you DON'T hear them. They will sound like a ratcheting sound or sort of like a buzzing noise for about one second when you shift into drive or reverse, and you'll hear it when it downshifts into first gear as you come to a stop. That buzzing is one of the solenoids turning on and off very rapidly to "modulate" or cushion the shift so it's more comfortable. If the solenoid just suddenly turned on or off, it wouldn't hurt anything but the jerking would be uncomfortable.

The brake squeal is a result of using high quality brake pads. It will usually go away when they get hot and it typically gets worse in humid weather. Old, softer pads made with asbestos didn't make that noise. There are lots of little tricks professionals know to do to reduce that noise during a regular brake job and there's lots of things they know to watch out for to prevent causing that noise. Most of them will tell you there's nothing wrong and to live with it until it's time for a brake job. They might be able to reduce it but most cures are not permanent. It's just a fact of life with newer cars.
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Sunday, May 27th, 2012 AT 9:01 PM
Tiny
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Thank for the answers. I was wondering cause sometimes when its hot out n I turn on the car n hit reverse it doesn't tug. But I guess when I shift gears it has to move. It doesn't do it all the time either. Thank you so much for ur input.
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Sunday, May 27th, 2012 AT 9:23 PM
Tiny
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Again thanks for ur answer caradiodoc. U were right it was the soleinoid pack, which was replaced. The car had been leaking and didn't notice till I went under to look. Now when I start the car, put it in drive and take off, it makes a clicking noise when I hit 5 m.P.H. It only does it once tho when the car turns on. Is this normal?
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Thursday, May 31st, 2012 AT 8:08 PM
Tiny
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Usually it's the gasket for the solenoid pack that leaks, not the solenoids themselves, but there's no arguing with success if the leak is stopped.

You should be hearing a buzzing noise for about one second when you shift into drive or reverse. There is a foam rubber cover over the solenoid pack to reduce the noise but you can usually still hear it if you listen closely. I'm not sure what you're hearing at 5 mph but there are a lot of emissions-related valves and switches that do their thing at specific speeds. You might be hearing one of those.
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Thursday, May 31st, 2012 AT 8:28 PM
Tiny
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When driving the car it begin to slow down I try to reverse to go back home then the car shut off, no indication on the dash board or any check engine light. The car starts, but when I put it on drive or the reverse gear the car won't shift or move at all. But when I put on drive in my driveway it move like it on neutral and then when I put it on park it stays it won't move.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:07 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good afternoon,

Did you check the fluid level?

Testing needs to be done for pressure on the clutches. It sounds like you have no pressure build-up.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/automatic-transmission-problems

I would start by dropping the pan and changing the fluid and filter. The filter may be clogged with debris not allowing pressure. Otherwise, you have an internal failure.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

Roy

HYDRAULIC PRESSURE TESTS

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NOTE: Before preforming the hydraulic pressure tests be certain to disconnect the Variable Line Pressure (VLP) electrical connector (2) at the transmission. Check for and clear any codes that may have been set after preforming any hydraulic pressure tests and connecting the Variable Line Pressure (VLP) electrical connector.

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Pressure testing is a very important step in the diagnostic procedure. These tests usually reveal the cause of most hydraulic transaxle problems.

Before performing pressure tests, be certain that fluid level and condition, and shift cable adjustments have been checked and approved. Fluid must be at operating temperature 150 to 200 F. (66 to 93 C).

Install an engine tachometer, raise vehicle on hoist which allows front wheels to turn, and position tachometer so it can be read.

Attach 300 psi Gauge C-3293SP to port(s) (1) overdrive clutch, (2) torque converter off, (3) low/reverse clutch, (4) 2/4 clutch, (5) reverse clutch, (6) underdrive clutch required for test(s) being conducted. Use Adapter Set L-4559 to adapt gauge(s) to transaxle.

TEST ONE-SELECTOR IN LOW (1st GEAR)

1. Attach pressure gauge to the low/reverse clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (L) position.
3. Allow vehicle wheels to turn and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated vehicle speed to 20 mph.
4. Low/reverse clutch pressure should read 115 to 145 psi.
5. This test checks pump output, pressure regulation and condition of the low/reverse clutch hydraulic circuit and shift schedule.

TEST TWO-SELECTOR IN DRIVE (2nd GEAR)

NOTE: This test checks the underdrive clutch hydraulic circuit as well as the shift schedule.

1. Attach gauge to the underdrive clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the 3 position.
3. Allow vehicle wheels to turn and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated vehicle speed of 30 mph.
4. In second gear the underdrive clutch pressure should read 110 to 145 psi.

TEST TWO A-SELECTOR IN OD (4th Gear)

NOTE: This test checks the underdrive clutch hydraulic circuit as well as the shift schedule.

1. Attach gauge to the underdrive clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (OD) position.
3. Allow wheels to rotate freely and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated speed of 40 mph.
4. Underdrive clutch pressure should read below 5 psi. If not, then either the solenoid assembly or PCM/TCM is at fault.

TEST THREE-OVERDRIVE CLUTCH CHECK (3rd and 2nd Gear)

1. Attach gauge to the overdrive clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (OD) position.
3. Allow vehicle wheels to turn and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated vehicle speed of 20 mph. Vehicle should be in 3rd gear.
4. Overdrive clutch pressure should read 74 to 95 psi.
5. Move selector lever to the (3) position and increase indicated vehicle speed to 30 mph.
6. The vehicle should be in second gear and overdrive clutch pressure should be less than 5 psi.
7. This test checks the overdrive clutch hydraulic circuit as well as the shift schedule.

TEST FOUR-SELECTOR IN OVERDRIVE (4th Gear)

1. Attach gauge to the 2/4 clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (OD) position.
3. Allow vehicle front wheels to turn and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated vehicle speed of 30 mph. Vehicle should be in 4th gear.
4. The 2/4 clutch pressure should read 75 to 95 psi.
5. This test checks the 2/4 clutch hydraulic circuit.

TEST FIVE-SELECTOR IN OVERDRIVE (4th Gear-CC on)

1. Attach gauge to the torque converter clutch off pressure tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (OD) position.
3. Allow vehicle wheels to turn and increase throttle opening to achieve an indicated vehicle speed of 50 mph. Vehicle should be in 4th gear, CC on.

CAUTION: Both wheels must turn at the same speed.

4. Torque converter clutch off pressure should be less than 5 psi.
5. This test checks the torque converter clutch hydraulic circuit.

TEST SIX-SELECTOR IN REVERSE

1. Attach gauges to the reverse and LR clutch tap.
2. Move selector lever to the (R) position.
3. Read reverse clutch pressure with output stationary (foot on brake) and throttle opened to achieve 1500 rpm.
4. Reverse and LR clutch pressure should read 165 to 235 psi.
5. This test checks the reverse clutch hydraulic circuit.

TEST RESULT INDICATIONS

1. If proper line pressure is found in any one test, the pump and pressure regulator are working properly.
2. Low pressure in all positions indicates a defective pump, a clogged filter, or a stuck pressure regulator valve.
3. Clutch circuit leaks are indicated if pressures do not fall within the specified pressure range.
4. If the overdrive clutch pressure is greater than 5 psi in 4 of Test Three, a worn reaction shaft seal ring or a defective solenoid assembly is indicated.
5. If the underdrive clutch pressure is greater than 5 psi in 4 of Test Two A, a defective solenoid assembly or PCM/TCM is the cause.

PRESSURE CHECK SPECIFICATIONS

FLUID AND FILTER SERVICE

NOTE: Refer to the maintenance schedules in LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE, for the recommended maintenance (fluid/filter change) intervals for this transaxle.

NOTE: Only fluids of the type labeled Mopar(R) ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) should be used. A filter change should be made at the time of the transmission oil change. The magnet (on the inside of the oil pan) should also be cleaned with a clean, dry cloth.

NOTE: If the transaxle is disassembled for any reason, the fluid and filter should be changed.

FLUID/FILTER SERVICE (RECOMMENDED)

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1. Raise vehicle on a hoist. Refer to LUBRICATION and MAINTENANCE for proper procedures. Place a drain container with a large opening under transaxle oil pan.
2. Loosen pan bolts and tap the pan at one corner to break it loose allowing fluid to drain, then remove the oil pan.
3. Install a new filter (1) and O-ring (2) on bottom of the valve body.

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4. Clean the oil pan and magnet. Reinstall pan using new Mopar Silicone Adhesive sealant. Tighten oil pan bolts to 19 Nm (165 in. lbs.).
5. Pour four quarts of Mopar(R) ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) through the dipstick opening.
6. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position.
7. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3 mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick.
8. Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature 82 C (180 F.). Refer to Fluid Level and Condition Check for the proper fluid fill procedure See: Fluid - A/T > Procedures > Fluid Level and Condition Check.
9. To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening.

DIPSTICK TUBE FLUID SUCTION METHOD (ALTERNATIVE)

1. When performing the fluid suction method, make sure the transaxle is at full operating temperature.
2. To perform the dipstick tube fluid suction method, use a suitable fluid suction device Vacula(TM) or equivalent).
3. Insert the fluid suction line into the dipstick tube.

NOTE: Verify that the suction line is inserted to the lowest point of the transaxle oil pan. This will ensure complete evacuation of the fluid in the pan.

4. Follow the manufacturers recommended procedure and evacuate the fluid from the transaxle.
5. Remove the suction line from the dipstick tube.
6. Pour four quarts of Mopar(R) ATF+4 (Automatic Transmission Fluid) through the dipstick opening.
7. Start engine and allow to idle for at least one minute. Then, with parking and service brakes applied, move selector lever momentarily to each position, ending in the park or neutral position.
8. Check the transaxle fluid level and add an appropriate amount to bring the transaxle fluid level to 3 mm (1/8 in.) below the lowest mark on the dipstick.

9. Recheck the fluid level after the transaxle has reached normal operating temperature (180 F.). See: Fluid - A/T > Procedures > Fluid Level and Condition Check.
10. To prevent dirt from entering transaxle, make certain that dipstick is fully seated into the dipstick opening.

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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:07 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi,

Check for trouble codes write them down and try doing a hard reset here's how to do it:
Disconnect the battery terminals and touch them together for 10 minutes. I like to put a test light between the two cables and ground it to prevent module damage. This discharges all the capacitors that could potentially still be charged. It acts like a factory reset. Let us know if this worked.

Thank you
Joe T.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:07 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The car allows me to shift in reverse but in reverse and I press on the gas pedal it makes a grinding noise and will only go but so far. It will not drive in reverse.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:07 PM (Merged)
Tiny
MHPAUTOS
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A grinding noise is a big concern, this would indicate that there is something fairly serious wrong with the transmission, get it towed to a transmission specialist as further driving may cause further damage, get this check ASAP.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
BLAKJAXX21
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Transmission problem
2008 Dodge Avenger 4 cyl Automatic

My car wont shift into reverse. It wont go past parking. Everything turns on correctly. No signs of any malfunction on the dashboard. I put the hand break down step on the breaks and try to move from the parking postion to reverse, or anyother, but wont go past parking position. Ive been suggested that it may be a possibe computer error. Have anything for me?
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Are the brake lights coming on if so have the shift interlock control system checked out could be the shiftlock solenoid.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
BUTLER
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What is wrong with my car when it makes a rattling sound when it's in drive or reverse
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
MHPAUTOS
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With out hearing the noise it is a bit hard to say, but have the exhaust system checked for loose or broken mounts, have a mechanic listen for a cracked flex plate, is this noise only in drive/

mark (mhpautos)
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Why wont my 97 Dodge Avenger go onto reverse?
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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A few things can cause the problem. First, make sure the trans fluid is clean and full. If the check engine light is on, have the computer scanned to identify if there are any trouble codes. If none, a tech will need to check the reverse band to see if it is broken or damaged.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
CHANAENAE
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When I put my avenger into reverse, it feels like it shifts into it, im pretty sure, but it'll only rev it when I press the gas to back up and some smoke wiul come out. Ive had the tranny looked at. Apparntly the computer was soaked in oil for the tranny and there was leak with the tranny fluid that was fixed. Is there anything I can do? Im only 21 and being a female, ive gotten caught in some situations before.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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So the fluid is full and what color is the fluid?Probably going to have to do a pressure test on the transmission to see what the pressure is.
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Thursday, July 30th, 2020 AT 2:08 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Im not sure what color the fluid is I had my father do it for me, he said it looked how it should and the fluid was fine. Is there a possibility I need a new tranny? Or will it be an ohk fix?
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