Ita a manual trans Accord

Tiny
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Ita a manual trans Accord. At varying speeds sometimes at 20-25mph, or at 30-35mph, and at 60-65mph the front of the car shakes, but the steering wheel does not. At speeds between and after its as smooth as ever. Firestone says it is the lower control arm bushings on passenger & driver sides, along with the passenger side outer tired rod end that needs replacing. Honda mechanic says it the axle. Pepboys after many hours says its most likely the axle, the engine mounts are fines.

tires (new) balance/rebalanced/aligned/crossed and no change
All are pricey, any help available.
Monday, October 22nd, 2012 AT 11:59 PM

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Tiny
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Sound as CV joint or CV axle. You can do this your self but have to have the tools
and know how.
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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 12:07 AM
Tiny
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Don't really know how, or have the tools. There is also a hollow clucking like sound when turning right, its very low and can easily be missed. The control arm bushings have crack in them.
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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 12:49 AM
Tiny
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CV joint is out thats the noise when turning and control arm should not have a crack. If so both are bad and should not drive the car till fixed. I know it's expensive but no other choice if keeping the car.
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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 1:15 AM
Tiny
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Vibrations during light acceleration can be cause by the inner CV joints due to lack of lubrications or wear. Check if the boots are torn and look out for sings of grease spilled aroud the area. Hold the axle shaft and shake it in up/donw motion andnote if the shaft moves more than the inner CV joint. Turn the shaft and test with different position.
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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 3:37 PM
Tiny
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Checked for grease and torn boots, no leaks and no torn boots. Correction to the previous post, turning to the left the "clucking" sound is heard.
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Tuesday, October 30th, 2012 AT 3:31 AM
Tiny
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Turning left and clunk sound is the axle/ Cv assy
Right turn is Cv joint. If sound is on left you wil need axle with cv joint from whell bearing to transfer case of tranny, Not and easy job.
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Wednesday, October 31st, 2012 AT 1:28 AM
Tiny
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Oh and even if there are no torn boots etc the CV joint and or axle assy can be bad. Grease dries out over time and wears the inner bearings.
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Wednesday, October 31st, 2012 AT 1:30 AM
Tiny
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Did you check both side of CV shaft and boots? Turning left usually is due to right side having problem.
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Wednesday, October 31st, 2012 AT 10:14 AM
Tiny
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Alright, thanks to KHLow2008 & lifter for your advice, I had the left axle replaced and the shimmy in the front end stopped. However, the clucking/knocking sound when turning left can still be heard most of the time. I even heard it once while on a straight smooth road today. Could it be my suspension (front or rear) or is it the right axle? Is there any way to diagnose it?
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 AT 12:21 AM
Tiny
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We can't help to locate the source of the noise and depending on the noise, it can sometimes be difficult to locate even if we have the vehicle.

You need to try to simulate the condition, note when it occurs, exact noise type and under what conditions. From there you would get an idea what possible causes are or at least eliminate those not likely to be causes.

There is an equipment called "Chassis Ear" which is a sound detector and has a few microphones where you can place them on suspected area to monitor. Some shops loan out these and you can check if any around your area deos it.

If the left shaft have failed even without the boots tearing, the right might be almost there too.

If the noise is from outer joint it would be easier to test.
Get a large open space where you can make turns easily.
Start engine and engage gears.
Turn steering to full left and while holding steering position, accelerate abruptly and release pedal. Do not go full throttle as the engine noise might be too loud to hear anything. Repeat test a few times and each time when you accelerate, that is the time the noise should come out if it is the CV joint.

For a CV joint that is not really bad, you might not have any noise at all turning angles so with steering back off slightly from full lock position, repeat test. Repeat again with various turning angles.

Btw if the replacement CV axle is a rebuilt, take note too, it might be the cause.
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 AT 1:43 AM
Tiny
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Did the mechanic ck the rest of the front end?
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 AT 2:34 AM
Tiny
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He was suppose to. They were informed of the sound.
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 AT 3:44 AM

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