Overheating while on Freeway

Tiny
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I have a 01 Civic EX that has had overheating issues for a while now. Here is a list of the work we have done so far.

-Replaced radiator
-Replaced timing belt/water pump
-New head gasket
-New cooling fan
-System flushed
-New thermostat
-Oil changed
-New air filter

After all this being replaced the car still overheats on the highway. Driving around town even long distances at under 60 mph it will be fine and not overheat, but after driving for about 10 minutes on the freeway the temp starts going up. Turning on the heater full blast helps a little, but it still stays over the halfway mark on the temp gauge. Any suggestions for what else to look for?
Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 1:50 PM

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Tiny
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Wow, you have replaced everything there is. Have you checked the ignition timing? Have you checked for a partially plugged catalytic converter?
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 3:23 PM
Tiny
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I had the catalytic converter checked today. They said it is fine.
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 3:30 PM
Tiny
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Is it running normally other than the overheating?
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 3:36 PM
Tiny
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It feels like it has lost some power and gas mileage is worse than normal. Also, when it does start to get hot the a/c starts blowing warm air.
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 3:46 PM
Tiny
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Also, the coolant level has not dropped since doing the head gasket so there is no leak.
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 3:49 PM
Tiny
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I would start by checking to see if the converter is plugging. Also, you may want to check ignition timing to make sure it isn't off.
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 6:06 PM
Tiny
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The muffler shop said the converter is not plugged. I will check the timing and post here after I do it.

Thanks
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Monday, September 9th, 2013 AT 7:18 PM
Tiny
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Let me know what you find.
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Tuesday, September 10th, 2013 AT 9:45 AM
Tiny
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I was thinking about your problem. By any chance did you use a new thermostat that opens at a lower temp? The factory one would have opened fully at 195 degrees. Also, is there any chance that the new thermostat is stuck open?

These questions may sound crazy, but if the thermostat stays fully open all the time, I have see where the coolant flows so fast through the cooling system, the radiator can't cool it off.
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Tuesday, September 10th, 2013 AT 5:52 PM
Tiny
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2001 Honda Civic LX 1.7L (not VTEC), MT, 90500 miles. This car has developed a mysterious problem this fall and winter of increasing in temperature on the freeway (i.E. Driven at 2700 to 3000 rpm at speeds of 60-70 mph). The problem is most noticeable when placing a load on the motor, e.G. Driving uphill in rolling Missouri terrain. Turning the heater on helps alleviate the problem and sends the gauge back to 2/5th's where the engine has always run steadily the previous 90000 miles, including uphill in the summer at speed with the A/C on. I do this when the temperature approaches 3/4 on the guage, or near the top of the temp "icon" on the guage. The ambient temperatures encountered with this problem have been 30-60 deg F so far. I have already replaced the thermostat as a cheap precaution. A radiator flush and fill was performed by a nationwide brand name auto care center at 77000 miles. The current coolant mix has protection down to 20 deg F, meaning with more water it should provide better heat transfer (I think; the relatively high freezing point is a separate problem and will also need to be addressed). Lower and upper hoses are both hot. No sweet smelll or white smoke in exhaust. No coolant loss has been noted, and no appearance of oil or bubbles in coolant when run with the engine warm. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, as I am worried about this car overheating in hotter summer months.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I believe your problem is fan related. Does the cooling fan kick in. Check that out by turning on the A/C. Does the cooling fan kick in? When it starts to overheat on the roadway does the fan kick in? The heating system acts like another radiator only smaller.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I'm so sorry - I triple-checked my post and thought I had included all of the pertinent information. After installing a new thermostat and rubber seal (gasket), I idled the car in my garage on blocks at 1500 rpm to open the thermostat and purge air from the system in accordance with my Chilton's manual, and the fans kicked on twice in this process as described in the manual with the temperature at a normal fully warm setting (although without the A/C on). Original timing belt and water pump, but not req'd until 105000 miles according to service manual. I am thinking this might possibly be a plugged radiator somehow (?).
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Personally I think 105, 00 is too long for a rubber timing belt, im more of a 70-80,000 guy. Irealise the exhaust smells OK, but I would have it chemical tested to be sure. T-stat open in the garage, bring rpm's up and be sure one of your hoses isnt collapsing, ie- upper or lower rad hoses.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I tried a new radiator cap today after work and drove it on the highway again. No luck, same symptoms - the car will run very hot at high speed (70 mph, especially uphill) and it drops back to normal (2/5 of gage) as soon as the heater is turned on. I also tested the collapsing hose tip; after returning home I gunned the throttle body with my thumb and saw no sign of hose collapse. Starting to really think this is a bad radiator somehow, but not ready to jump to conclusions. Great site; great advice!
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
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I have a 2001 Honda Civic, I recently have had overheating problems. I have changed out the thermistat, the radiator cap, flushed the radiator, I drove it for two days after the repairs with no overheating issues, until today, after running the vehicle for approx. 20 minutes, once I came to a stop, the Temp. Began to rise again. There are no visible leaks either from hoses or water pump, I would appreciate some help with this issue.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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You've done about everything, the radiator is next. I just bought one on ebay for $5 and it is brand new. Paid $25 shipping and handling but it was very nice and was a perfect fit. Just checked and there aren't many on ebay to choose from for your model and year.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Well I would check /replace the engine coolant temp sensor, and it isnt uncommon to have something happen to your thermostat after changing it, like getting some sort of debris stuck in it, so I would check the thermostat again too to make sure nothing got caught up in it
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good tip Bruce. Thats where I would go next
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi Espalin,

Just following up on legitimate007, ;)

Check if the radiator is short of coolant, not the reserve tank. There could be air pockets if you did not bleed the system.

Was the radiator fan working when the temp gauge reading increases? It could be failing intermittently due to carbon brushes running out.
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Thursday, August 1st, 2019 AT 5:48 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes, that was a good tip! I finally had a chance to swap radiators this weekend, used a Koyo model and got it done in one afternoon. Took it out for a test drive this evening and it runs like new, no overheating problems, even uphill accelerating on the highway w/ the AC on! Thank you all for the great website and advice.

Some advice of my own for other DIY mechanics - the engine drain plug is a bear to get at, had to use a 1/2" drive ratchet w/ 2" extension and universal joint to get it out. Sometimes the owner's manual is a good source too - I flipped through it after finishing and discovered I was supposed to put non-hardening sealant and a new washer on the plug; Chilton's never told me that! We'll see how long it holds for without leaking.
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