HAVING A INTERMITTENT NO CRANK PROBLEM

2001 Chevrolet Impala

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 11, 2012 AT 1:35 AM

Having a intermittent no crank problem. When no crank condition happens with key in crank position the bendix wire has no volts.
Maybe neutral safety switch or Ignition switch?

I noticed that when the car is running I can turn the key in the crank position and starter will not come on. Good for the flywheel but I think that feature could be hanging up intermittantly.

I need to find out how that works. Thanks

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Tiny

ASEMaster6371

November, 11, 2012 AT 1:54 AM

First of all, never turn to start with it running, you will damage the flywheel and start motor nose.

The ignition switch is a common failure.

Roiy

Tiny

cadieman

November, 11, 2012 AT 3:14 AM

When I will start check the voltage at the starter with the key in crank position. If there is voltage to the starter try tapping it with a hammer doesn't crank? Shifted into neutral doesn't crank? If there is no voltage to the starter go to the ignition switch and check for start signal on the Brown wire when a key is in crank position. If there is no signal from the ignition switch the switch is bad. If the switch is sending a start signal then you'll have to go to the neutral safety switch.

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 11, 2012 AT 3:32 AM

Right, It will clash

I wish the no crank problem would just fail. If I test the ignition switch for continuity it would pass because car is cranking fine this week.
It only happens once a month every month.

What about the no crank while running feature, could that be a problem. If I replace the ignition switch, and neutral safety switch, but the problem might still be there.

Is the no crank while running. PCM or vacuum controlled, Anyone know?

Tiny

cadieman

November, 11, 2012 AT 3:42 AM

So when it won't start check the voltage at the starter with the key in crank position. If there is voltage to the starter tried tapping in with a hammer does it crank? Shift into neutral does it crank. If there is no voltage to the starter go to the ignition switch and check for start signal on the Brown wire when the key is in the crank position. If there is no voltage is from the ignition switch the switch is bad if the switch is sending a start signal then you'll have to go to the neutral safety switch and check your voltages there.

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 11, 2012 AT 5:14 AM

Its upstream starter because there is no voltage at brown trigger wire while key in crank position.

Why the no crank while running? Anyone know?

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 11, 2012 AT 5:42 AM

Are There any TSB for a 01 impala 3.4l concerning: "Starter disabled, service throttle"

Tiny

cadieman

November, 12, 2012 AT 1:38 AM

Did u check the voltage at the starter? Also if it running y would u restart it?

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 12, 2012 AT 3:11 PM

No voltage at starter at in brown trigger wire while attempting to crank. Only when the problem happens.

I think the ignition, and neutral safety switch are fine.
Could be the the "Starter disabled, service throttle" because it wont idle.
Will crank and start right now but you have to keep your foot on the gas or it will stall.
Hey everyone lets take care of the stalling at idle condition first then that should be all. Thanks

Tiny

cadieman

November, 12, 2012 AT 7:43 PM

This idle problem would set a code. Take it and have the codes checked. Most part stores will check your codes for you. You need to start here.

Tiny

j.stieg

November, 12, 2012 AT 10:13 PM

Ok I checked the codes with my scanner and I get codes P0300, P0420, P0420pd. Previously had a misfire for awhile.

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